From owner-freebsd-chat Sat May 13 19:55:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from sharmas.dhs.org (c62443-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com [24.0.69.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9550C37BA7B for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 19:55:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adsharma@sharmas.dhs.org) Received: (from adsharma@localhost) by sharmas.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA17321; Sat, 13 May 2000 19:55:05 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 19:55:05 -0700 From: Arun Sharma Message-Id: <200005140255.TAA17321@sharmas.dhs.org> To: chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why are people against GNU? WAS Re: 5.0 already? In-Reply-To: <20000514074433.A23997@physics.iisc.ernet.in> References: <391D4DAD.FD80980A@picusnet.com> <003b01bfbcdc$6059fb40$a164aad0@kickme> <4.3.1.2.20000513100518.0444c390@localhost> <20000513215350.A6803@physics.iisc.ernet.in> <4.3.1.2.20000513104752.0447aa50@localhost> <20000514012024.A16224@happy.checkpoint.com> <4.3.1.2.20000513191658.0451dbb0@localhost> <20000514042602.A19316@happy.checkpoint.com> <4.3.1.2.20000513193601.0406a500@localhost> <20000514074433.A23997@physics.iisc.ernet.in> Reply-To: adsharma@sharmas.dhs.org.nospam Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In muc.lists.freebsd.chat, you wrote: > > So what he's saying is that you can live comfortably without > proprietary software, but can't make money on the same scale you > can with proprietary software. Which is pretty obvious. Where > does he say he wants to "destroy programmers' livelihoods"? FWIW, > the "banning" refers to commercial restrictions, not commercial > activities. > The moment, somebody tries to define terms "comfortably", "enough money", "inappropriate amounts of money", they're not talking about freedom any more. > Maybe it's hard to believe that in a GPL-dominated world all today's > programmers will find jobs, but I find it harder to believe that there > will be a greatly reduced demand for programmers. And where there is > demand there will be pay. All those thousands of H1B visa holders > won't have to return to their home countries simply because you can > copy software from your neighbour. ZDnet already addressed this in a recent story. The sentence was something like: Who needs all these H1-Bs, when there are open source programmers ? There's tons of custom programming going around - but how much of it is released under GPL ? Most fortune 500 companies (where the wealth is), will not consciously employ programmers to write GPL'ed code. Also, if you look at the silicon valley, it basically lives on the promise of making "inappropriate amounts of money" some day. You take out that promise and there is no difference between Santa Clara, CA and some little town in Nebraska. -Arun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message