From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 18 00:16:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 60C8491C for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 00:16:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm2-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.33]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D3D1C5A for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 00:16:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1424218557; bh=tofPstMzHAqRUf1VPYcCbfe2bt9TUnOHxNWkjsz9tl0=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=GOiZyaGoyOq9nTIrYvZ7tmO3EGI8YL2cyuf7WhrzaX6urlaFN+p1ZmCVtgJAkJUN+Nu6odbprWOd3AjfodpnCksgK9oRy9VjZfFQFyHm3Y3UQBvxFVvz3MWa2kXlIsNjYjBJu2GCgrW+p+O+aFI4/Z8b7+IrN2L5NXPEcJus2pRbz35RadKa/cx5qOrzcdH8Tn4wUNkeDlHcUgg36qX0p06kEp/pkYHtZOq5ujbUcWHd5sM+HsnR14Pd+RjH/FnIX4nRYs74J+1q5zkylyj+mruDlFVpz+3tO13Brfff6LRygVGfydRl8PcRTD5tpXPSf6kzO6e9shCvIWFRgjsDdA== Received: from [98.138.101.130] by nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2015 00:15:57 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.66] by tm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2015 00:15:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2015 00:15:57 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 94782.28092.bm@smtp103.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: gWM9Nn4VM1n5KIRbe5XrceLIC4VBkioV8p5D8W1eP5CXfHD d3RXONaIbFE0V2L9dfyW9s9zi3WJEvsOJMTmEC5NDVV99oBLB0dDQhg97X8M 3E7w9urnYyvXBYg93Gb7lV0iEAiaVECS2odwXFLInRmqqfgODfo5sPj17DM_ K5OiDkaoBlOmCjNzk.w.r_nXs5NZmpR.wYU0d5S2asTpyfJdJENCkHL2CUSt GYGsLLCcxRK1wbBbQPYtbxm0zfTAkMzRJsLrYqV71gaWBSOF7qJqZ8Abej.7 jg1dBdIw6rUR9FALHe4FtMIeFpM1GqMsVAkUZQyMwWjVG2WEzekIZ7qGNwX0 5XXiOqmwynu9YvdFETh3WFAFRllJc9d0vP5TRdL0YE35EgEQTLM583l2QeRL E2yEhZ1CEaWp81Xw_4W2C2KJF7zeHrp4xf7o92Tn.NnTn48.qbeN3FfaGHdM uTqNEjP3AoOAFtaZr_YXUYxCxlP6pI1N5ImOWhwZ_8XrY1S.3unFz.eA2B5m Plu7BuK1zKU3QoSWnC3jOPG2.iPUtqbD3QJ5MYHxu3.3VJMirrYeggNxr5OU 7TUhJMIk- X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 01:15:56 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: What's in my hard drive? How can I get rid of it? Message-ID: <20150218011556.4b3e6096@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <54E3D7A5.9000304@radel.com> References: <54E39F83.70002@gmail.com> <20150217202411.GA42894@neutralgood.org> <20150217222744.0a9b1d87@archlinux> <54E3BF90.9060609@gmail.com> <20150218000401.2ec1bf7a@archlinux> <54E3D7A5.9000304@radel.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1-66-gd6ba813 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 00:16:04 -0000 On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 19:07:01 -0500, Jon Radel wrote: >On 2/17/15 6:04 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:24:16 -0700, jd1008 wrote: >>> A people's tribunal of highly capable software and hardware >>> engineers is desperately needed to look into the source codes of >>> all SW and HW designs and implementations - including the compilers >>> and assemblers. >> We are still free to write Assembler opcode using an hex editor, that >> way nothing could go wrong. When I started, I didn't write opcode >> using an hex editor, but I used an Assmbler editor that didn't >> provide macros, this editor was close to an hex editor. There was no >> way to correct something by inserting code. >> >And you expect the microcode to only implement the documented >instruction set with no extra goodies? Trusting sort you are. :D Then we indeed need to reed every single line that is in the RAMs/ROMs/etc.. Hahaha, I still remember how much days I needed to get through a 2 KiB listing of Assembler on listing paper. I suspect it's impossible to check 20 MiBs and more of software that way.