From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 23 20:27:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2621F106566B for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [IPv6:2605:dc00:100:2::a2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C46D98FC13 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1291 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jan 2012 20:27:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2012 20:27:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=3YBIZNzVrXOR4ky5IYLSCNEdRd4tZtVHA8Ve8LuQ5oY=; b=VOEgUK/A4I7uImXABpP8PLul4mgtd/Ts9kHNeo41EY2Hpg4/g4AIys5wuq34t5UTPHkfG9Esd5/2/jdBO7Czzt8iFPN0k6lJVvAgN5xLg3XTqJJmyKEwzbT3iYqPUtJ1; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RpQU5-0001mI-Fu for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:27:21 -0700 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:27:20 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120123202720.GB21884@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4F180C83.9090100@my.gd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Subject: Re: Horrible installer (was: Re: FreeBSD 9) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:27:23 -0000 On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 07:25:03PM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > > And IMHO sysinstall should not exist, while good documentation about > installing BY HAND should be there. I agree with the part of that sentence following the comma. That is all. > > Someone that cannot install it him/herself will not be able to ever > manage it after so why waste time. > > Do not forget that FreeBSD is for unix users, contrary to linux > which is for windoze haters. > > > Again i propose removing sysinstall altogether. Automation is good, provided it does not eliminate useful options and flexibility. You seem unaware of this fact in the general case, for some reason. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]