From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 1 12:56:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B541611 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 12:56:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DB1F1D59 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 12:56:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-118-231.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.118.231]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEF6C3CEEA; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 14:55:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t51Ctsut002604; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 14:55:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 14:55:54 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Matthias Apitz Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: easy to use WYSIWIG editor for VT102 Message-Id: <20150601145554.71709b29.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20150601063418.GA2133@c720-r276659> References: <20150529090528.GA2890@c720-r276659> <20150531112511.2c2156c2.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150601063418.GA2133@c720-r276659> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 12:56:04 -0000 On Mon, 1 Jun 2015 08:34:18 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > I installed misc/mc-light and run it as=20 >=20 > $ TERM=3Dvt102 export TERM > $ unset TERMCAP > $ mcedit ESER.txt >=20 > I was suprised that it offers in the last line of the screen this: >=20 > 1Help 2Save 3Mark 4Replac 5Copy 6Move 7Search 8Delete 9PullDn 1= 0Quit >=20 > (the numbers are black on white, the words are presented inverse) Why surprised? Remember the Norton Commander, and also have a look at the MC's (default) file management view. The function keys are being _used_ in a consistent manner. > surprised, because the VT102 has no function keys F1...F10. But I > figured out that ESC-1 ... ESC-0 do the same job.=20 Yes, that will work. I had the same experience on the VT-101. You can also invoke the Meta- keys using ESC, for example Meta-? =3D Esc ? to open the file search dialog. > It's a bit a pitty, that it can not switched to German. It can be switched to German - at least the "non-lite version" has support for many languages (which I have installed). 1Hilfe 2Spe~rn 3Mar~en 4Ers~en 5Kop~en 6Ver~en 7Suchen 8L=F6s~en 9Men=FCs= 10Bee~e Sadly the translated words are too long, and the "shortening" is quite suboptimal. It would be much better this way (same width for each entry): 1Hilfe 2Speich 3Mark 4Ersetz 5Kopier 6Versch 7Suchen 8L=F6sch 9Men=FCs= 10Beend In a terminal window wider than 80 characters the full text will be visible. 1Hilfe 2Speichern 3Markieren 4Ersetzen 5Kopieren 6Verschi= eben 7Suchen 8L=F6schen 9Men=FCs 10Beenden Try the following (bash syntax): $ LC_ALL=3Dde_DE.ISO8859-1 /usr/local/bin/mcedit -da The interface should appear in German, but the "lite version" is probably limited in this regards. Maybe a separate language package could be provided for the "lite version"? Or you just install the "non-lite version" and give that a try... And now: "Datei umbewegen"! ;-) --=20 Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...