From owner-freebsd-current Wed Feb 5 10:06:36 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA10190 for current-outgoing; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:06:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from Mailbox.mcs.com (Mailbox.mcs.com [192.160.127.87]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA10087 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:06:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from Jupiter.Mcs.Net (karl@Jupiter.mcs.net [192.160.127.88]) by Mailbox.mcs.com (8.8.5/8.8.2) with ESMTP id MAA23374; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:06:25 -0600 (CST) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Jupiter.Mcs.Net (8.8.5/8.8.2) id MAA06750; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:06:24 -0600 (CST) From: Karl Denninger Message-Id: <199702051806.MAA06750@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> Subject: Re: Karl fulminates, film at 11. To: jkh@time.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:06:24 -0600 (CST) Cc: karl@Mcs.Net, joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de, current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19962.855163686@time.cdrom.com> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at Feb 5, 97 09:28:06 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Mail sent to an open mailing list is not private. > > But the mail I sent to you which you forwarded was. No. It was sent to an open mailing list. As for *paraphrasing* private mail, that's permitted under fair use. Don't like it? Then don't send me email. That's only a 200-year or so old point which people have had to live with in every other media. It applies here. > with a paste-in from one of my *private* messages to you. Again, short excerpts and paraphrases are perfectly fine in any area. > I will have some commits to the handbook shortly which make it > clear just what will and what will not be tolerated on our mailing > lists. > > Jordan If free discourse is in any way restricted then we're done. Would you like me to post what Tom Ptaeck sent to me regarding WHY he took the stance he did, and what he intends to do in the future with regards to FreeBSD security issues? He's already sent that to the core team as well -- or are you conveniently ignoring the fact that due to the way the talkd bug was MIShandled (in his opinion) he's now going to go open-season IMMEDIATELY on all FreeBSD security issues? Further, you folks have NOT addressed the true problem -- which is the entire setlocale() code turn. That needs to be ripped out WHOLESALE until it can be combed through and ALL unbounded manipulation replaced. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity http://www.mcs.net/~karl | T1's from $600 monthly to FULL DS-3 Service | 99 Analog numbers, 77 ISDN, Web servers $75/mo Voice: [+1 312 803-MCS1 x219]| Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net/ Fax: [+1 773 248-9865] | 2 FULL DS-3 Internet links; 400Mbps B/W Internal