From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 19:38:52 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A70916A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:38:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3357A43D55 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:38:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JJd57e016167; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:39:05 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503191939.j2JJd57e016167@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Scott Long In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:34:09 MST." <423C7EB1.9060704@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 12:39:05 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Sean Hafeez cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 19:38:52 -0000 > Theo de Raadt wrote: > >>While I understand what you want Theo lets not remove the support for > >>stuff that currently works. I just spent $349 on a Adaptec RAID card > >>for my home server and if the support is removed I will be very upset. > >>The drive is written. Leave it alone. Let it be up to the end user to > >>pick which card they want to buy. You can not go back and undone > >>support for something you have listed! > > > > > > Sorry. Besides not having raid management, the driver is rather buggy. > > You know, over the years that I worked for Adaptec and worked on the > FreeBSD AAC driver, lots of other people contacted me for help with > making their AAC driver work with their OS. Strangely, not once did > you or anyone else from OpenBSD contact me. Nate perhaps did. But why should we know that an NDA-singing FreeBSD person is our contact, when over the years, even the people at Adaptec did not tell us so? > I would have been happy to > help. Heck, I might have even ported the management app (AACCLI, not > a GUI, btw) for you like I did for FreeBSD. Barring that, I would have > been happy to show you how to do the linux compat shims for the driver > so that you could use the Linux AACCLI on OpenBSD. But no, you never > contacted me. We do not want a binary tool. Neither our developers, nor our users. We like free software. > I think your whole rant here is bunk. You're more concerned about petty > bullying and showing everyone how important you are. Your treatment of > Doug is downright shameful, and I plan to call him and discuss it Monday > morning. If Adaptec puts out an SDK later this year then good for them, > but I highly doubt that it will be as a result of your antics. You > could have had good AAC support years ago if you had just bothered to > look around and use your resources, but instead you chose not to. > Delete the driver and screw your users over some more. > > Scott