From owner-freebsd-arch Wed Jan 22 19: 5:12 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A16F37B401 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (12-233-57-224.client.attbi.com [12.233.57.224]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573CA43ED8 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:05:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU) Received: from HAL9000.homeunix.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h0N359oV081066; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:05:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU) Received: (from das@localhost) by HAL9000.homeunix.com (8.12.6/8.12.5/Submit) id h0N359f6081065; Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:05:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dschultz@uclink.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 19:05:09 -0800 From: David Schultz To: Peter Wemm Cc: Garrett Wollman , Matthew Dillon , arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: getsysfd() patch #1 (Re: Virtual memory question) Message-ID: <20030123030509.GA52151@HAL9000.homeunix.com> Mail-Followup-To: Peter Wemm , Garrett Wollman , Matthew Dillon , arch@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200301222323.h0MNN7co043532@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> <20030123022158.E5F5B2A7EA@canning.wemm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030123022158.E5F5B2A7EA@canning.wemm.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thus spake Peter Wemm : > Garrett Wollman wrote: > > > > I would argue that namespace private operations are far better handled > > > in userspace then kernelspace (why waste kernel memory managing > > > private namespaces?). > > > > Private namespaces are bad and unnecessary. We already have anonymous > > shared memory; I don't see any need for ``semi-anonymous'' shared > > memory. The garbage-collection problem is already bad enough. > > Meanwhile, in the real world, it is exactly what we need at work. > Anonymous shared memory (MAP_ANON and /dev/zero) isn't good enough. I suppose it's too late to argue that the L4 interface would be sufficient to solve all these problems... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message