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Date:      Thu, 09 Jan 1997 15:39:24 -0800
From:      Ken Ingram <kingram@ipro.com>
To:        joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch)
Cc:        FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Adding Hard Drives - Prepping
Message-ID:  <199701092331.PAA09719@ipro.com>

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OK.OK.

Best take a deep breath before I rant...

Anyway, thanks for the help. Many people have been responding.

I hope to no longer be a b\newbie one day.

Just the man pages? Jeez!

At 10:51 PM 1/9/97 +0100, J Wunsch wrote:
>As Ken Ingram wrote:
>
>> My question is: Why do i have to spend hours of time cross-referencing
>> every damn thing when all I want to do is format the bloody thing.
>
>You don't have to spend hours for cross-referencing.  Not necessarily.
>When some of us started back in 1992, all we had were the man pages.
>Nothing else, perhaps a little Usenet support by the more experienced.
>
>Well, we figured it out, and i can't remember it took me too many
>hours getting the picture.  However, it requires you to leave
>traditional PeeCee thinking (like fdisk, or the misnomer MS-DOS calls
>`format' which actually can be anything or nothing at all, depending
>on the time of day).
>
>> Is there or is there not a simple way to do this?
>
>It depends on what you mean with `format'.  Low-level format?  For a
>SCSI disk, use /sbin/scsiformat.  For an IDE drive, ask the vendor of
>your drive, he's the only one to know.  Certainly, you don't need or
>want to low-level format your drive.  Do you want to fdisk it, in
>order to share it with other operating systems?  Well, use fdisk.
>It's not great, we know, but nobody has ever been bothered to write a
>new one.  Do you want to disklabel it, in order to create partitions?
>Certainly, you want.  That's the only mandatory step.  Well, either
>read the FAQ, or read the man page.  Or ask a question one could
>really answer.  (Not just ``All this sucks, i don't get it.''  What do
>you expect us answering to this?)  Do you want to ``high-level
>format'' (or simply spoken: create) your filesystems?  Yes, you want.
>Use newfs for this.  It often doesn't require any other argument than
>the name of the raw device at all.
>
>> If there is a simple way what should be investigated when it isn't working
>> as described (e.g. FAQ part 2.15)?
>
>Investigate.  Describe it better.  Fix the bugs -- i have never
>experienced them, so it's harder for me to fix it.
>
>-- 
>cheers, J"org
>
>joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE
>Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)
>
>

--Ken
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