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Date:      Fri, 26 Oct 2001 12:49:59 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
To:        David Greenman <dg@root.com>
Cc:        Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, tlambert2@mindspring.com, Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 64 bit times revisited..
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0110261245540.11653-100000@InterJet.elischer.org>
In-Reply-To: <20011026100039.C58218@nexus.root.com>

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On Fri, 26 Oct 2001, David Greenman wrote:

> >but here;s a better idea anyhow..
> >
> >take the TOP 2 bits.. they can never be used now anyhow....
> >that gives us nanosecond resolution, which is all we can report now
> >anyway, and multiplies the seconds range by 4. Assuming that we do not
> >allow access times < 1970 on disk (there were no such files then,
> >then we are ok up to the year 2600, by which time we hope there are no
> >embededded systems from the next 5 years still running.....

This is just to keep systems that are built using UFS in an embedded
(probably solid-state disk based) system CAPABLE of running past 2038.

The SIMPLEST answer is to declare the seconds to be UNSIGNED.
that extends us for another 70 odd years.

> 
>    Any solution that tries to bandaid the problem by using a few bits from
> here or there is unacceptable to me. I have mixed feelings about changing
> to phk's 1/1^64 fractional timestamp idea, but I do think that we should
> make time_t 64 bits on all architectures, including x86, starting with v5
> of FreeBSD.

that would be 1/2^64 no?
(actually a nice idea but not very standard..)

> 
> -DG
> 
> David Greenman
> Co-founder, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org
> President, TeraSolutions, Inc. - http://www.terasolutions.com
> Pave the road of life with opportunities.
> 


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