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Date:      Thu, 6 Jan 2011 11:37:04 +0000 (UTC)
From:      "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bzeeb-lists@lists.zabbadoz.net>
To:        arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Linux kernel compatability
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2011, Daniel Eischen wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Jan 2011, Andrey Chernov wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 05:17:21PM -0700, Scott Long wrote:
>>>> We have not been marginalized in this space because we have an emulator. 
>>>> We just don't have the marketshare in many areas.  If anything, these 
>>>> emulators improve our marketshare.
>>> 
>>> I agree entirely.  Companies look at marketshare and ability to turn more 
>>> revenue than costs (i.e. profit).  Like Jeff, I've had my share of dealing 
>>> with companies who have made a conscious to support or not support FreeBSD 
>>> based on those factors.  Petitions and letters sound great on Slashdot, 
>>> but don't work in the real world.  Emulation increases marketshare.
>> 
>> Emulation decreases our marketshare, presenting us like
>> not-so-good-but-trying Linux clone, so, for this reason alone, every
>> serious company will put its money on Linux product running on real Linux
>> instead of thinking about porting it into FreeBSD.
>
> Has anyone asked, instead of putting Linux shims into FreeBSD,
> why aren't FreeBSD shims put into Linux?  If the FreeBSD ABI/KPI
> is supposedly more stable than Linux, then wouldn't it make
> more sense to do it that way?

You people know that a lot of linux tools are ported to freebsd?
I mean there is a glibc for FreeBSD out and (soon to be) in an official
Linux distribution release.

> And I suppose part of the answer to that question is, it would
> not be acceptible to the Linux folks.

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