From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 09:53:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7FD45BEC for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:53:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-x22b.google.com (mail-yh0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2FA933782 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:53:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yh0-f43.google.com with SMTP id 29so5515986yhl.16 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 02:53:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:mime-version:content-type; bh=FmHoS15UVeUbWid5IXd7X+XvSmySEhZ5GGlJzztx7D0=; b=rNEtneNtU9VlYHbSYJdmumYegyCc0iVGslWTqJTNvrY1/uKDqer4sZX0e3tRq+Fzx8 4cSUSKxuY5NY7hzED/tF22+QQU5KjMpGElWKepRS8w/7HcoWBvZU14nDpTQ+dc/gCP+D eMSsW6j2Be08ffwqnyn+xuLdHk6bF+du5tRNQ= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:organization:mime-version:content-type; bh=FmHoS15UVeUbWid5IXd7X+XvSmySEhZ5GGlJzztx7D0=; b=RFVarlMr2k8LZrsV00qABGHBGn5jYN8gO/iWOydUr/JcOIMhMMVTOdUcnLSu9phVDk JsL4OJIyu+rftAJkNx+4ivRDIU9/7oVJs1o0mGwozzGWSUJVYP7gTiZPBrPd/YzCkk2b vy3qGEjI4WFTlM9oDoKtGR0flpu+ZCHTfOzSgA0zsNb35m+07EMJjQZzVFI4B20Ua6+x m4F+51BqyPMMIhGgi9Gzh24/nYjrPsqN8coXUc1n4rh140fz0cpg0toSvr0h3nzzjKcQ j7sqCYtTgpzfF5ckXG4BHFrK8s69l7aUZStim/AMmcfPrt4cwRLQ37ztKYbNYn+66r8f b1Dg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkyQ/8hHhuJYahG1A6U389o3FKd06oqahrMvFdSSp3ZboreQNZMNVEMQZoYFm6rYVJZDMsW X-Received: by 10.236.202.40 with SMTP id c28mr1459815yho.120.1408442029707; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 02:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n63sm6100712yhp.1.2014.08.19.02.53.48 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Aug 2014 02:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scorpio (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com [76.182.104.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3hcnWc2Hrdz3DlVF for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 05:53:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.4 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 05:53:40 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to encourage a wireless driver to exist? Message-ID: <20140819055340.6d6849d9@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20140819101620.8d438b891873ce6f6b61d051@yahoo.es> References: <003e01cfb9db$8c11b1e0$a43515a0$@dcollins.info> <20140818233121.GA6745@z.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> <20140818195748.375442d8@scorpio> <20140819101620.8d438b891873ce6f6b61d051@yahoo.es> Reply-To: User questions Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.10.1 (GTK+ 2.24.22; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/UMuvL3ytQS1IUZqP_UDpx0M"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:53:51 -0000 --Sig_/UMuvL3ytQS1IUZqP_UDpx0M Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:16:20 +0200, Eduardo Morras stated: >All this description is hardware and managed by hardware. The driver >configures the hardware, gets data from it to kernel space and send data to >it from kernel space, as each hardware has its own configuration and does >data exchange different, you need a driver for each hardware. Sometimes, >hardware made from the same vendor can share the same driver, but it's not= a >rule. Yes, you need the driver to make use of the hardware. Considering it took nearly 10 years to get FreeBSD to support some, but not all "n" base hardware when the choices where far smaller, how long will it take for it to support, even partially the newer, more advanced ones. I gave up years ago attempting to use FreeBSD for my wireless machines. I absolutely refuse to be held hostage to obsolete technology. That does point up an interesting fact that I read recently regarding various OS's, hardwar= e, etcetera. The FOSS has for years accused Microsoft of "lock-in", yet, by the inability of the FOSS to develop drivers for newer hardware on a timely basis, they are creating their own "lock-in" environment. --=20 Jerry --Sig_/UMuvL3ytQS1IUZqP_UDpx0M Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJT8x6rAAoJEElTsHIJnX8eQp8H/2fwUbjZWzVXgA8DLXVf7kkv ts1qjeojRVkctUNaEwOIOrlvNWxBb0Uq7QDLDGhmYOQr8SeTBoJBXHV6ouvkTPGN d+kPjDSl27er75D5vbDJinBkUzY8+He0dPGdIdN1UKiqgvBZUY/bkBkEsDiMRe+v ibLXRBQ+75983Yc8ELZlu7o7Y6NPwdE8WF95PT4GeCfmX7G2Dnt4Oe4/8QROfU5b ZQvjXh3jBiCsStXlC45TQz/fiuKuTZvbLWculS03GCXPumoJapzYVCL5Z8yqgUmY fFaizf3IpbZyMm++zzTQqQDwjWK/RHvPj/fIxsRlmFJGKlrDbATXdLQbmgSmm9M= =dJsU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/UMuvL3ytQS1IUZqP_UDpx0M--