From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jan 11 20:09:31 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E88106568F for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:09:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ltning@anduin.net) Received: from mail.anduin.net (mail.anduin.net [213.225.74.249]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17C4E8FC13 for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.62.248.147] (helo=ranger.home.anduin.net) by mail.anduin.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NUQ6y-0002DA-SR; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:39:37 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Eirik_=D8verby?= In-Reply-To: <4B4B7D86.6000502@netscape.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:39:35 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <15033963-494B-4D34-8359-52D2C59EC6A1@anduin.net> References: <4B4A6FA5.1010002@netscape.net> <4B4B6E37.3050005@netscape.net> <9dd082311001111056j1ca3afb4le14ba84270fb730@mail.gmail.com> <4B4B7D86.6000502@netscape.net> To: Kaya Saman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) Cc: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Newbie to FreeBSD on SPARC - questions about Sun hardware X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 20:09:31 -0000 On 11. jan. 2010, at 20.35, Kaya Saman wrote: > Royce Williams wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Kaya Saman = wrote: >>=20 >> =20 >>> is this list online or dead? >>>=20 >>> Sorry am just not used to a mailing list being this quiet! Usually = within a >>> few minutes or hours of signing up someone has posted something to = the list >>> (not meaning response to what I ask but just in a generic sense). >>> =20 >>=20 >> I'm mostly a lurker on this list, but I'd say that the silence was >> because your message had multiple sections, and some of the questions >> were non-trivial to answer. :-) >>=20 >> Your summary was helpful: >>=20 >> [...] >>=20 >> .. but you also said that you were interested in the difference >> between SPARC and x86. There are many, many variables underneath the >> answer to these questions. Also, "performance" means different = things >> to different people. I don't know of any broad, publiished = benchmarks >> comparing freebsd/sparc64 and freebsd/i386 performance, but they = would >> be interesting to see. >>=20 >> Maybe someone else on the list is in a similar boat, and will chime = in >> here. :-) In my experience, unless you can find others who are >> already working under similar requirements, the clueful advice I've >> seen people give is that doing your own testing is the best way to = get >> results that are meaningful to your situation. >>=20 >> Royce >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sparc64 >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-sparc64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> =20 > Many thanks for the response Royce! :-) >=20 > Actually I am not that much interested in the performance benefits = between x86 and SPARC; but more between OpenSolaris and FreeBSD on SPARC = as I will be running either one on a Sun V480 server. >=20 > The issue I am facing is purely down to software and administration. I = mean the best example I can provide is that BSD has the packages I want = at least for x86 which I've seen: that are Cacti, Munin, and awstats = (should also be there for SPARC too) but then Solaris has zones which = allow me to allocate a separate virtualized OS contained within the = master OS or global zone. BSD on the other hand has jails and as from = going onto the jails list apparently I can actually assign interfaces to = various jails which is what I was going to do if I used Solaris Zones. >=20 > So that's really what my issue is: which OS to choose?? >=20 > Adding to what I mentioned about Cacti, Munin etc.... Solaris has a = secondary site called opencsw which you can download most of the stuff = bar Cacti. This just makes thing tricky I feel to install and configure = since one can do a /usr/ports/*/cacti then make install clean which will = do everything on FreeBSD. Two things that make me use FreeBSD before (Open)Solaris on any piece of = SPARC hardware I get my hands on: - It "feels" faster, snappier, whatever, no hard evidence, just gut = feeling - FreeBSD is, from my perspective and when using non-bundled opensource = software, easier to manage. Three words: ports, portmaster, = freebsd-update. /Eirik > Hmm..... decisions, decisions...... >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Kaya > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-sparc64 > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-sparc64-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20