From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Feb 8 17:49:22 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08EDEF16C60 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2018 17:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from bs1.fjl.org.uk (bs1.fjl.org.uk [84.45.41.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "bs1.fjl.org.uk", Issuer "bs1.fjl.org.uk" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8FD1773238 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2018 17:49:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) Received: from roundcube.fjl.org.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bs1.fjl.org.uk (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w18Hn6IB090461 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2018 17:49:07 GMT (envelope-from frank2@fjl.co.uk) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2018 17:49:06 +0000 From: Frank Leonhardt To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Swap on SSD Organization: FJL Microsystems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8881bd8b8006cb246d6ef566e2a277fa@roundcube.fjl.org.uk> X-Sender: frank2@fjl.co.uk User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/0.9.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2018 17:49:22 -0000 On 2018-02-07 19:38, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > On 2018-02-07, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > >> There seems to be some confusion on this list about swapping and >> paging. >> Swapping is old hat. Basically when doing a context swap you wrote a >> non-running process to a swap area to free up RAM space. We don't do >> that anymore - we use demand paged virtual memory. > > Demand paging was introduced in UNIX 32V and entered the BSD line > with 3BSD. That's around 1978-80, so almost forty years ago. Yeah, but not everyone could afford an MMU until much later :-) Did you ever run the UCSD P System? For some reason the keyboard driver got swapped out (on to 8" Floppy) and every time you hit the keyboard the drive went .