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Date:      Mon, 15 Nov 1999 02:12:14 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Jonathon McKitrick <jcm@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
To:        Lowell Gilbert <lowell@world.std.com>
Cc:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Judge: "Gates Was Main Culprit"
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.02A.9911150211100.14584-100000@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>
In-Reply-To: <rd63du8o91g.fsf@world.std.com>

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On 14 Nov 1999, Lowell Gilbert wrote:

>"David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com> writes:
>
>> Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>
>> > However, one something is in the application level, i.e. programs like
>> > the browser, the word processor, the mail reader, hell even the mail
>> > transfer agent, it is no longer part of the OS.
>> 
>> 	The line is very blurry. Where is command.com on MSDOS? Where is the
>> defragmenter in Windows 98? Where is FreeBSD's 'sysctl'? Do you really want
>> the government making the decision about what's part of an operating system
>> and what isn't? I don't even think real technical experts can do it.
>
>Before the fuss over Microsoft's bundling IE with Windows, I always
>considered ftp to be part of the operating system.  On Windows *and*
>Unix.  And try as I might, I can't see a difference between that and a
>browser, other than historical accident.
>
>Admittedly, you can have a usable system without either one, but
>that's true of *most* of what ships with FreeBSD, and I always thought
>a big advantage of FreeBSD was that it came as a "complete" system...
>
That may be true... but FreeBSD doesn't make it inconvenient for you to
choose a different ftp program, or even write your own.  It also doesn't
decrease system performance even when you are *not* using it.


-jonathon




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