From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Mar 14 17:17: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C8D2D37B722 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2001 17:16:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 29511 invoked by uid 100); 15 Mar 2001 01:16:55 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15024.6151.615093.266438@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 19:16:55 -0600 To: Brett Glass Cc: Mike Meyer , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stallman stalls again In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010314170008.00d86960@localhost> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010314132512.04acb100@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010313211657.00e294a0@localhost> <3AADC096.DE27817@outpost.co.nz> <4.3.2.7.2.20010311235053.00e26140@localhost> <20010305205030.G80474@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010305125259.00cfdae0@localhost> <20010305142108.A17269@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306011342.045fb360@localhost> <20010306081025.A22143@marx.marvic.chum> <4.3.2.7.2.20010306092612.00b79f00@localhost> <20010306174618.N32515@lpt.ens.fr> <4.3.2.7.2.20010311230800.00e19bd0@localhost> <15020.28993.192354.986367@guru.mired.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20010312223234.0445f3a0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010314170008.00d86960@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass types: > At 04:13 PM 3/14/2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > >I don't see him encouraging people to copy things illegally, I see him > >providing using less inflamatory language to describe it. > The original version of the essay was more strident about advocating > piracy. Richard toned it down after being warned that stongly urging > people to commit crimes was not a wise move. So, he began to exhort > people to "share" and "help your neighbor." Of course, these are > nothing more than code phrases for piracy, which Stallman actively > advocates in forums that he considers to be friendly to the idea. > Some other choice quotes: You didn't save a copy, did you? > "Note that the GNU Project recommends avoiding the term piracy since it > implies sharing copies is somehow illegitimate." > > "One basis for society is that of helping your neighbor -- but in the > software world this is piracy." > > Stallman believes that the end justifies the means. He will stop > at nothing, no matter how unethical, to hurt the fortunes of programmers > who seek to make money from their work. Claiming that those two quotes imply that Stallman advocates stealing is akin to claiming that publishers advocate capital punishment for software piracy because piracy is - or at least used to be - a capital crime. [Refusing to be by yet another irrelevant attack on RMS.] http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message