From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 14 05:54:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EC6BD3A for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 05:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6A4818 for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 05:54:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eastrmimpo210 ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150414042110.ZJDX21735.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo210> for ; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 00:21:10 -0400 Received: from [192.168.3.15] ([72.209.223.190]) by eastrmimpo210 with cox id FgM91q006475ef401gM9Yf; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 00:21:09 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020202.552C95B5.019E,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QYW4SLnv c=1 sm=1 a=ZAcaX8x25vLlsS9BSDEb7A==:17 a=f5xKl4ys9bwA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=FP58Ms26AAAA:8 a=Dii0CXW2RFZYyIDajCYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=uE4dPCiIhngA:10 a=ZAcaX8x25vLlsS9BSDEb7A==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Message-ID: <552C9723.3070403@cox.net> Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 00:27:15 -0400 From: "John D. Hendrickson" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Motif 2.0 - 2.2 with panner working nice + automake %100 complete Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 05:54:11 -0000 http://sourceforge.net/projects/motif250/ new non-virtual panner (old virtual one was removed before 2.1+ release) NEW pan with keys (no panner GUI) NEW drag single windows pans better than gnome grid panner or (xrandr/X11 virtual) ? far as i can remember yes. %100 complete automake ./configure - ready to remake project (ie, running libtool does not break it) , and demos are not broken :) panner is also %100 optional. should be CDE compatible or is easily so. yes works with X virtual desktop too. code was not mangled to add panner: no new files, just a new function placed back in, a few adjustments to panner. but there's new motif !? yes but motif 2.3.4 does not support 2.1.30 applications anymore (ie, perhaps and older ddd bin). for libXm.so.2.0 still need motif-2.2 around (especially if they continue to hack in (more) non-compat changes in Motif 2.3+) Non-Virtual panner is a small function that would work with about any window manager ever made, if placed into a callback for that wm, and panner(1) is just a widget which is a UI for using it. is %99 X11, just has to listen to X for a message for panner calling, is all. I could be wrong about new gnome still being stuck with full page only / grid panner. Sure it's a greedy app plug however: I thought it's worth meantioning because 1) easy to compile Motif anyone needs that 2) non-virtual panner could be added to enhance any wm project pretty quick 3) non buggy, and size is not related to video memory - even less so than fvwm 4) xrandr like X11R6 Virtual i believe eats video memory and is limited by hardware (same code base), has no GUI i heard of yet , and many are dumping hardware problems getting it to work and or restricted to area. that is what i understand so far. xrandr --panning 1600x1280 is still very small. 6000x4000 would be small for fvwm :) especially for people like me with no infinite government budget !