From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Thu Apr 20 21:22:26 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB76BD48B84 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D49C81BDA for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id D114FD48B83; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09A0D48B81; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [96.47.72.132]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9009E1BD7; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:22:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@FreeBSD.org) Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1235) id EE45A47B1; Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 23:21:53 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Koop Mast Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org, portmgr@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: manpath change for ports ? Message-ID: <20170420212153.cawvn4xsxuwuebfu@ivaldir.net> References: <20170306235610.cmpxk27jhoafel6l@ivaldir.net> <1492723094.55896.22.camel@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="akklfd3ecjwxpoxg" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1492723094.55896.22.camel@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20170306 (1.8.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:22:27 -0000 --akklfd3ecjwxpoxg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 11:18:14PM +0200, Koop Mast wrote: > On Tue, 2017-03-07 at 00:56 +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > Hi all, > >=20 > > I would like to propose a change in the localbase hier for ports > >=20 > > I think we should add /usr/local/share/man in the manpath along with > > at first > > and maybe instead of in long term. > >=20 > > The reason is: > > - /usr/local/share/man seems more consistent to me with base which > > have: > > =A0 /usr/share/man > > - It will remove lots of patches from the ports tree where were we > > need to patch > > =A0 upstream build system to install in a non usual path. > >=20 > > My proposal is to add to the manpath /usr/local/share/man in default > > man(1) > > command in FreeBSD 12 (MFCed to 11-STABLE) > >=20 > > and either provide an errata for 11.0/10.3 or a > > /usr/local/etc/man.d/something.conf via a port or something like that > > for those > > two, what do you think? > >=20 > > For the same reason I would like to allow porters to stop patching > > (with pathfix > > or anything else) the path for pkgconfig files and allow > > /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig along with the current > > /usr/local/libdata/pkgconfig:/usr/libdata/pkgconfig > >=20 > > Which will also remove tons of hacks from the ports tree. > >=20 > > What do you think? > >=20 > > Best regards, > > Bapt >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I recently committed the USES for the meson build system to ports. This > USES configures the meson build system with some default variables > which includes the location of the man pages. This setting is just a > flag to the meson command so it easy to change. >=20 > Meson also handles the generation and installation of pkg-config files > that a port wants. The problem is that this is handled by the script > itself and there is no way to configure it, so we need to hack the > meson port to change it from lib/pkg-config to libdata/pkg-config like > we currently are using. (1) Or add a hack to meson.mk to move the pkg- > config to the right location (evil++ imho). >=20 > My point I want to make is that currently there is only 1 port build > via the meson system (graphics/graphene). Should we change man/pkg- > config file locations now, it very easy. If we want to change them > later we will need to mass bump every meson build port. It is important > to note that GStreamer and GNOME are moving over to using meson instead > of autotools and that Wayland, Xorg en Mesa are exploring want is > needed to make the switch. So I think it important that the decision > what to do is done now and that we stick with it. >=20 > Reading the rest of the thread it seems nobody is really against the > proposed change of man and pkg-config path's. So how does one submit a > policy change like this? I'm also not sure I'm the right person to push > this, I just got back from a break and I don't want to really deal with > something super high profile right away. >=20 > -Koop >=20 > (1) I would like to see lib/pkg-config back in the search path of > pkgconf since that means I don't have to do a crash course python > programming. Would be nice is portmgr can step on this, let's reduce this discussion for= now on pkgconf. 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