From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 7 15:22:58 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7714937B401 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 15:22:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbo.cs.wm.edu (zimbo.cs.wm.edu [128.239.2.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BA4A43FA3 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 15:22:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zvezdan@dali.cs.wm.edu) Received: from dali.cs.wm.edu (dali [128.239.26.26]) by zimbo.cs.wm.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h77MMuaC027618 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:22:56 -0400 Received: (from zvezdan@localhost) by dali.cs.wm.edu (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h77MMtjo018461 for freebsd-security@freebsd.org; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:22:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:22:55 -0400 From: Zvezdan Petkovic To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030807222255.GA18430@dali.cs.wm.edu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org References: <20030807191926.50590.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com> <000001c35d26$cd0827b0$0304a8c0@delllaptop> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000001c35d26$cd0827b0$0304a8c0@delllaptop> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: Re: FreeBSD - Secure by DEFAULT ?? [hosts.allow] X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Security issues [members-only posting] List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 22:22:58 -0000 On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 01:59:27PM -0700, Chris Odell wrote: > > But why IPFW? IPF is *BSD native wall. I actually use both - IPF for > firewalling, and IPFW for throttling via dummy net. My recommended > reading for IPF and IPFW is "Building Linux and OpenBSD Firewalls"... Where did you get this information? Native firewall for FreeBSD is ipfw, AFAIK. It's even used on OS X as a native firewall, due to Darwin's FreeBSD roots. Also, OpenBSD stopped using ipf four releases ago. The native firewall for OpenBSD is pf. pf inherited much of the syntax from ipf, but also extended it and added some features. That said, I personally find ipf quite a good stateful firewall and its syntax can feel more natural than ipfw syntax. It also works on Solaris and other OS's besides *BSDs. -- Zvezdan Petkovic http://www.cs.wm.edu/~zvezdan/