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Date:      Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:30:43 -0400
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        soralx@cydem.org
Cc:        freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Propietary NVIDIA driver pwn3d
Message-ID:  <20061020023043.GA41532@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <200610191914.41286.soralx@cydem.org>
References:  <20061018205647.b8578efc.mmendez@energyhq.be> <20061019190436.GE19415@graf.pompo.net> <20061019191429.GA34611@xor.obsecurity.org> <200610191914.41286.soralx@cydem.org>

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On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 07:14:41PM -0700, soralx@cydem.org wrote:
>=20
> > > > > al least those can be promptly fixed...
> > > > Wasn't this one promptly fixed too?
> > > This bug was reported on 2004-12-21:
> > > <https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D2129>.
> > Well...sort of.  The *symptoms* are reported there but no-one
> > identified it as a nvidia driver bug.
>=20
> duh... could the fact that the bug was well hidden within the depths
> of the binary blob play a role? Debugging _with_ a source code is a
> hell of a way to waste time sometimes, let alone trying to fix
> something when all you have is a binary module... a kernel module.

No, the point was that no-one in that URL pieced together that "the
crash occurs only when I have nvidia loaded" until a few days ago, so
it's not supportive of the original claim.  i.e. since no-one even
figured out nvidia was relevant, the closed-source nature of the
nvidia driver isn't relevant either.

Anyway, someone else suggested they did take a few months to deal with
the problem once reported by someone else (but not nearly 2 years as
originally claimed), so I'll give that the benefit of doubt.

Kris

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