From owner-freebsd-security Fri Mar 15 13:29:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from tesla.foo.is (tesla.reverse-bias.org [217.151.166.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672EF37B402 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 13:28:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from germanium (germanium.reverse-bias.org [192.168.1.1]) by tesla.foo.is (Postfix) with SMTP id 20AA0276B; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 21:28:44 +0000 (GMT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Baldur Gislason To: "Jesper Wallin" Subject: Re: Is PortSentry really safe to use? Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 21:30:23 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <2332.213.112.58.232.1016226432.squirrel@phucking.kicks-ass.org> In-Reply-To: <2332.213.112.58.232.1016226432.squirrel@phucking.kicks-ass.org> Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02031521302303.03229@germanium> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That's right, you cannot rely on portsentry in "stealth scan" mode, since SYN packets are easily spoofable. Baldur On Friday 15 March 2002 21:07, you wrote: > Hey.. > > Lets say I want to hide all my services by changing the standard ports on > all server and run PortSentry.. I used to run my system like that before > but yesterday a friend of mine was talking about a little security issue.. > > Lets say we run a system like that on www.blah.com, what happens if I run a > traceroute on it and fake a portscan from his default gateway? Sure he can > add the default gateway to the portsentry.ignore file but then I just take > the box before that and the one before that and the... and so on.. > > Isn't PortSentry more like a problem then a help then? I'm not sure if all > fo this work but I know it's possible to fake portscans with softwares like > "rain" and other "custom packets" programs. > > > Jesper Wallin (aka Z3l3zT) > "it's better to be a lame hacker than a hacked lamer" > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message