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Date:      Tue, 25 Mar 2003 04:35:20 -0800
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Yar Tikhiy <yar@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        Max Khon <fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru>, Mark Day <mday@apple.com>, "Matthew N. Dodd" <mdodd@FreeBSD.ORG>, ppc@FreeBSD.ORG, fs@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: HFS/HFS Plus driver and tools for 5.x are available
Message-ID:  <3E804D08.2F270EDB@mindspring.com>
References:  <20030324225320.B96310@iclub.nsu.ru> <86E4FD83-5E5E-11D7-B20F-00039354009A@apple.com> <20030325114159.A18471@iclub.nsu.ru> <20030325114824.GD26415@comp.chem.msu.su>

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Yar Tikhiy wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 11:41:59AM +0600, Max Khon wrote:
> > > Directory entries are stored in a B-tree, sorted in
> > > part on the case-insensitive name.  If you make the names in the B-tree
> > > keys case sensitive, your sort order will be different, and you'll be
> > > incompatible with existing HFS or HFS Plus volumes.  If you want to
> > > experiment with this, I strongly suggest using a different signature
> > > word.
> >
> > It can be newfs-time option.
> > Case-sensitive HFS+ volumes can have different signature in MBR (or whatever
> > partitioning scheme is used on that hardware platform).
> > There is a plenty of variants.
> 
> BTW, correct me if I'm wrong, but a new signature (HFS has it at
> the first two bytes of its volume header) and a change to the
> function for comparing two Unicode keys (so it will compare them
> respecting case) is all that is needed to make a case-sensitive
> variant of HFS.  Of course, the utilities (fsck_hfs in particular)
> should be changed, too.

Case sensitive on storage, case insensitive on lookup only works
if the lookup happens with knowledge of the case insensitivity.

I rather expect that HFS/HFS+ does it's globbing in the kernel,
too, unless it depends on iteration.  So that would be another
difference, as well.

I guess the alternative to that would be to iterate everything,
and apply the case insensitivity algorithm in the shell, too,
but that would probably be error-prone.  From my own memory of
HFS usage on MacOS, the globbing is in the kernel.

BTW: The NTFS/FAT32 has this same feature under Windows, at least
as far as that goes, e.g.:

	C:\>cd "Program FILES"
	C:\Program Files>

So technically, it should probably be handed the same way for
those two FS's.  8-).


-- Terry

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