From owner-freebsd-current Sat Mar 15 02:42:07 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA15724 for current-outgoing; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:42:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from X2.root.com (X2.root.com [198.145.90.53]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA15719 for ; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from X2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by X2.root.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA01512; Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:40:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703151040.CAA01512@X2.root.com> To: Michael Hancock cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Gotcha in moving to post 4.4 lite2 merge ``world''. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 15 Mar 1997 12:02:03 +0900." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 02:40:04 -0800 Sender: owner-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, A JOSEPH KOSHY wrote: > >> A question: is the 4.4 BSD Lite2 source being worked on by anyone? Will >> there ever be a Lite3? > >People say Kirk McKusick is working on soft updates as a contractor to >BSDI. > >Case 1: The release of these kind of enhancements would delayed >long enough to give them a "competitive advantage". > >Case 2: The enhancements will be considered their proprietary "value-add" >indefinitely and things will diverge more than ever. In the numerous times that I've spoken with Kirk in person regarding his work on the soft updates stuff, I've never gotten the impression that he intended anything other than providing the work to everyone (including us) as soon as he was finished. In fact I spoke with him just earlier this evening about it (at a sort of "Sushi" party that Jordan and I were at along with Kirk), and he said that the only reason he hasn't released it yet is because it occasionally panics and he doesn't want to give out known broken code. ...so anyway, the answer is "none of the above" to your "case 1" and "case 2" above. As to the original question about a lite/3, I'm told "definately not". ...but then, they said that about lite/2, too. :-) -DG David Greenman Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project