From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 19:27:09 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE47B106566B; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:27:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48698FC14; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:27:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from 63.imp.bsdimp.com (63.imp.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.63]) (authenticated bits=0) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p5CJLtIk065853 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:21:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20110612112150.GB62801@FreeBSD.org> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:21:11 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6BB2BD4D-824A-4EDA-8B9D-A774AC7DCDA2@bsdimp.com> References: <201106110908.p5B98kkE066709@svn.freebsd.org> <75DAEF7E-F43E-427E-8AFA-586E0B56D450@bsdimp.com> <20110611184549.GB3284@garage.freebsd.pl> <20110612112150.GB62801@FreeBSD.org> To: Alexey Dokuchaev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (harmony.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.6]); Sun, 12 Jun 2011 13:21:55 -0600 (MDT) Cc: Adrian Chadd , src-committers@freebsd.org, Pawel Jakub Dawidek , svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Robert Watson , Joel Dahl , svn-src-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r222980 - in head/sys: amd64/conf i386/conf X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 19:27:10 -0000 On Jun 12, 2011, at 5:21 AM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 08:51:32PM +0200, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:44:14AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: >>> I think our best bet for 9 is to strip GENERIC to the bone and have = a >>> 'generic.conf' if you will that loads everything we compile in = today. >>=20 >> I think trasz@ tried that and there is a problem. Loading modules on >> boot is very slow. If you try to load everything that GENERIC has as >> modules the boot will take forever. >=20 > Perhaps then we need to come up with something more intelligent, i.e. = do not > load everything trying to get maximum coverage of users' hardware, but > load only required bits based on what we see on PCI bus (roughly = speaking). Yea. Good luck with that. I had that idea like 4 or 5 years ago. = However, there's a lot of grunt work to do on all the drivers in the = system to get them into good enough shape to export their PCI ID lists = in a uniform way so we could automatically do the right thing. This isn't a 9.x item, but it could easily be a 10.x item. Warner=