From owner-freebsd-chat Sun May 3 16:05:18 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA16852 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sun, 3 May 1998 16:05:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA16674; Sun, 3 May 1998 16:03:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id IAA04737; Mon, 4 May 1998 08:33:10 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19980504083310.B356@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 08:33:10 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Eivind Eklund , Nicole , Brett Glass Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD advocacy list Subject: Re: InfoWorld Electric: Linux Zealots Trashing FreeBSD, Berkeley References: <199805030318.VAA15026@lariat.lariat.org> <19980504004828.35746@follo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19980504004828.35746@follo.net>; from Eivind Eklund on Mon, May 04, 1998 at 12:48:28AM +0200 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 4 May 1998 at 0:48:28 +0200, Eivind Eklund wrote: > On Sun, May 03, 1998 at 02:40:12PM -0700, Nicole wrote: >> >> On 03-May-98 Brett Glass wisely wrote: >>> I'm not mentioning FreeBSD explicitly in my messages, but I *am* advocating >>> the Berkeley-style license. The angry zealots who respond to me, however, >>> are trashing FreeBSD and the *BSDs in general. >>> >>> I agree that one can rarely "win" these arguments, but one can raise the >>> awareness >>> level of the lurkers (of which there are many) that there's an alternative >>> point of view. That's where the benefit comes in. >>> >>> --Brett >> >> >> I have heard one good argument against the FreeBSD liscense altho I >> don't know how true it is.. >> >> Their agument was that the license would allow someone (like M$) to >> take FreeBSD and add some propritary stuff to it (like Front page >> extensions, active X etc) and sell it without having to give >> anything back to the FreeBSD group or even state that it was >> FreeBSD. > > They don't have to explictly state that it is FreeBSD, but there are a > LOT of credits they _do_ have to state. Read through the source > sometime. > > One example: They have to credit the University of California at > Berkeley, even in their advertisements. This example is in > /usr/src/COPYRIGHT. Right. When did you last see this mentioned *anywhere* in System V.4? You can bet your bottom dollar that Microsoft wouldn't be any better. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message