Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:50:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Paul Pathiakis <pathiaki2@yahoo.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Julien Cigar <julien@perdition.city> Cc: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Supermicro HBA Message-ID: <1443717602.966565.1547729422870@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20190117103043.GA44618@mordor.lan> References: <20190117103043.GA44618@mordor.lan>
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I've used the LSI 3008. I haven't had any issues with it. It is supported by that driver. (I haven't built a server with one lately) Yes, avoid all the hardware RAID cards they are unnecessary and a JBOD controller with ZFS is a good choice. Make sure it supports the SAS3 spec of 12 Gb/s. That's where the speed is. I found the following as an FYI. Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBA Review | StorageReview.com - Storage Reviews | | | | | | | | | | | Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBA Review | StorageReview.com - Storage Reviews The Supermicro LSI SAS3008 HBAs (which share the same controller as the LSI 9300-8i HBAs) are engineered to deli... | | | I looked at it as more of a specs education. It looks solid. I've used Supermicro without issue in the past. (I just decommissioned my home server which was Supermicro and has that very card in it.) There is a lot to consider when using ZFS beyond just the hardware. Don't get me wrong.... I want to have ZFS' baby. :D Just be sure of all the nuances of HDD, SSD, Hybrids, how much memory you have to dedicate to ZFS and CPU cores you have. You have to take into consideration all the ZFS features you're planning to make use of now and in the future. Also, are you ever planning on expanding the storage to have an additional JBOD shelf? If so, you may want a card with some external connectors. Some of the people at http://www.ixsystems.com have done some serious research on application specific throughput of ZFS and I believe they also spec out SuperMicro servers too. It comes down to IOPS, raw throughput, etc. (I'm actually talking to them right now about some very large backup servers that can handle 0.75 PB.... The consideration I have is space and using RAIDZ2 and multiple streams from 10Gb interfaces and serious compression and deduplication. SO, IOPS not so much, but heavy raw I/O and RAID checksum computation and dedup. There's also things like dedicated SSDs as ZIL and cache to be thought about. So: go up the theoretical OSI layer model and optimize each layer right through the application layer. :D (I actually find it fun) I hope this all helps. P On Thursday, January 17, 2019, 4:33:38 AM CST, Julien Cigar <julien@perdition.city> wrote: Hello, We are planning to replace some (web) applications servers (currently running HPE) with Supermicro and the vendor offers the following choices for the Hardware Raid Controller/HBA 4P part: 1) Supermicro AOC-S3008L-L8E, LSI 3008 8 x SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, up to 122 hard drives via expander backplane, PCI-E, ideal for Nexenta/ZFS + € 205,6 2) LSI 9300-4I, SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, tot 256 harde schijven via expander backplanes, PCI-E, ideal for Nexenta/ZFS + € 214,5 3) LSI MegaRAID 9341-4i bulk, 4 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs internal entry level hardware RAID, no cache/BBU possible, PCI-e + € 177,97 4) LSI MegaRAID 9361-4i 1GB cache, 4 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs internal hardware RAID, max. 240 hdd using expander backplanes + € 401,7 5) LSI 9300-4i4e, SATA/SAS III JBOD controller, 4 x internal, 4 x external, up to 256 hard drives via expander backplane, Nexenta Certified, ideal for ZFS, PCI-E + € 273,95 6) LSI MegaRAID 9380-4i4e bulk, 8 x SATA/SAS 12Gbs, 4 x external and 4 x internal hardware RAID, 1024MB cache, up to 128 hard drives via expander backplane, support for SSD CacheCade 2.0 write and read caching, CacheVault support (advised), ideal for high en + € 676 As the plan is to use ZFS, I was planning to choose the "Supermicro AOC-S3008L-L8E, LSI 3008" (it looks like it is supported by mpr) and I was wondering if anyone has any feedback on it ? Would another option be a better choice ? Thank you! Julien -- Julien Cigar Belgian Biodiversity Platform (http://www.biodiversity.be) PGP fingerprint: EEF9 F697 4B68 D275 7B11 6A25 B2BB 3710 A204 23C0 No trees were killed in the creation of this message. However, many electrons were terribly inconvenienced. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 17 13:41:12 2019 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 839201496054 for <freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org>; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 13:41:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk1-f177.google.com (mail-vk1-f177.google.com [209.85.221.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E2818E6CD for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 13:41:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk1-f177.google.com with SMTP id s184so2265629vkd.6 for <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 05:41:11 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d 100.net; s 161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=u4pVfiMgLcPtdL+BL/lT0IQ/5GStICl2uA9AQHazz8A=; b=WA8N5Ufi5klu378SXMzqfhmXWi+kbaNzMmR7+hhW8kexj3aNsNRBN99CzpOJQcmjIO RH9ZQqlkFq5YRKWu/TGHIRUJ5LBSb0OgSADgZXy98xQvRDvD+QVBZ4kTIHd9wWeedXBf xd6ehlfZ9DtK7RzjqOP1ZOykceipi0/BXX5deRMZTcYYlY7WvKIBiF23e+mzxj6N0t7M kypvFCFTwkHVNJPKwfzyiqDKHG2DULuncNyqiqIHUyT5dvMIz4/BD4N7A9g6Xr0KihHD /xK8Miwm0vD2ycdhkaMBajU0miY90kLiF5RmimLNJO7iXpepYYgOkCFd3Ziu2TxUYZB8 az6g=X-Gm-Message-State: AJcUukcYXCoEndT2VafuwUiFHnFVal2MM82pHbpJ0Of6pgnO0XHHPdgV LD/uEX2N+cNgXW57GaCxBXUVEdpx9TJ5yt8+jhzUqHJYWCoX-Google-Smtp-Source: ALg8bN7Bkvh0djOcKRkTNiw0b77r4aSC0iprdUg3Aw6szK6wh7qJQ4EKA8jmUKOgxXYkTiXN/ou0wTNJvinRVptg4IUX-Received: by 2002:a1f:a8c5:: with SMTP id r188mr5815551vke.44.1547728553932; Thu, 17 Jan 2019 04:35:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <dd871ed1-e45b-3ea1-4794-1b4d02b633bb@bluerosetech.com> In-Reply-To: <dd871ed1-e45b-3ea1-4794-1b4d02b633bb@bluerosetech.com> From: CeDeROM <cederom@tlen.pl> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 13:35:35 +0100 Message-ID: <CAFYkXj=TUGLKz4fA_J7xHyYh8Q+am6BX4M0JSGGQcBJMK0wiWQ@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: UEFI loader picking wrong native resolution, documented fixes don't work To: Mel Pilgrim <list_freebsd@bluerosetech.com> Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org" <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5E2818E6CD X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of tomekcedro@gmail.com designates 209.85.221.177 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=tomekcedro@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.97 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17]; IP_SCORE(-1.13)[ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.76), asn: 15169(-1.81), country: US(-0.08)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[tlen.pl]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[177.221.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.83)[-0.830,0]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[cederom@tlen.pl,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[cederom@tlen.pl,tomekcedro@gmail.com]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 13:41:12 -0000 I have noticed similar problems with my AMDGPU on AMD RADEON. Setting hw.syscons.disable=1 in /boot/loader.conf and then loading the graphics module from rc.conf helped.. https://github.com/FreeBSDDesktop/DEPRECATED-freebsd-base-graphics/issues/170 -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
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