From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Dec 16 09:13:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12833 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:13:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12822 for ; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 09:13:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chuckr@mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA34726; Wed, 16 Dec 1998 12:11:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 12:11:41 -0500 (EST) From: Chuck Robey To: "M. L. Dodson" cc: Benedikt Stockebrand , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fortran in the base system (was Re: sysinstall) In-Reply-To: <199812161556.JAA01638@beowulf.utmb.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, M. L. Dodson wrote: > Those of you that are still with me should know that my objective > is only to add FBSD to the list of operating systems known to be > friendly to number crunchers. Fine thing. [various deletions] > "I can tell you how to avoid buying that $25000 Octane and get the > same capability on a $4000 PC". > > "Great, if I don't have to buy the Octane I can use the money for > that new probe we've been wanting for the NMR spectrometer! Tell > me what to order!" [more deletions] > The big guy in the group emails > me that the analysis system is dog slow after they got it to > compile, even though my benchmarks say that this machine should > be equivalent to an R10000 Octane on compute-bound jobs. I ask > him if they compiled it with g77, and he emails me back saying > "What's that?" I go through all the hooha about the ports > system. Why? That's exactly why packages exist, so folks who don't give a damn about the process can simply have the software they want, with an absolute minimum of work. I don't know your audience like you [give me feedback here] but it *seems* like you missed a step here. If all they had to do was get the port off the cdrom, type pkg_add , and start using it, mightn't they still be around? ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@glue.umd.edu | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run Journey2 and picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (NetBSD). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message