From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 20:16:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702F816A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:16:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0815D43D1D for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:16:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JKGp2P019452; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:16:51 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503192016.j2JKGp2P019452@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Scott Long In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:08:06 MST." <423C86A6.5020203@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:16:51 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Adam cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:16:38 -0000 > I'd love to have fully open stuff from all the RAID > companies too, but I also want the users of FreeBSD to be able to use > the resources that are out there to their full advantage and not be > pinned down by my political beliefs on the subject. Which is why you go onto public posting sites and slag me, instead of calling you your buddy Doug and saying "Hey, these guys have a point, and you really ought to sell it to Adaptec management, since you are the guy who can make this change, as you already told Theo and others four months previously that you were the guy that could". But no. Scott Long goes and slags the people who are taking a different approach. Scott, you do NOT stand for free software. You only stand for "whatever works". At least I am consistant in standing up for Free Software, and it has been working very well. I've freed up TONS of chipsets. What have you freed up lately? You work on RAID drivers, lots and lots of them, and you have not freed up ONE management interface. Why? I don't know. Has slagging me in public forums gotten you closer to opening up a RAID management interface? Nope. It has not. Was it fun? ps. When are you replacing the binary Atheros driver you have with the free one that we have reverse engineered? One that could be worked on by lots of people to make it better and better, unlike that .o file you ship.