From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Sep 15 10:03:34 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA09650 for chat-outgoing; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 10:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dumbwinter.ecomotor.it (mod13.logic.it [195.120.151.29] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA09630 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 1997 10:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 688 invoked by uid 1000); 15 Sep 1997 13:35:12 -0000 Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:35:12 +0200 (MET DST) From: Marco Molteni X-Sender: molter@dumbwinter.ecomotor.it To: FreeBSD Chat cc: ct@ct.heise.de Subject: Re: Testimonial In-Reply-To: <19970915092951.42342@lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, Greg Lehey wrote: > On Sun, Sep 14, 1997, Marco Molteni wrote: > > > Me too. Seriously, from what I've read on this list, c't seems > > very good. I suggest to put up a lobby among we FreeBSDers > > and let c't people know that we are interested in an english > > version. I think many other people (eg some Linux people, some > > BeOS people) can be very interested in it. > > I think the real problem is that a lot of c't's editorial content > is related to Germany. Looking at the September issue (436 > pages), I'd guess that about 20% of the material (such as the ISP > review they're planning to make a regular feature) is of little > interest outside Germany. No problems here, since I'd prefer a ~200 pages issue rather than a ~450 one ;-). I don't mind paying 200 pages the same price as 400, *if* the 200 are worth it. > Don't expect everything to be of interest, of course. A lot of > the editorial content is related to Microsoft. This seems the price we have to pay for being in the western world ;-) > In fact, they have a sister publication, iX, which deals with > UNIX, but it's not nearly of the same quality as c't. It makes me think about a "Readers' Digest of C't & iX", what about it ? ;-) On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, David Kelly wrote: > Marco Molteni writes: > > > Perhaps we could post some "call for lobbying" ;-) on the > > relevant newsgroups/mailing lists. > > I suspect the best thing would be to frequent the english articles > posted on their web site. The fact people bother to hunt them down > and read their stuff would be the best way to indicate a demand > for their product. Yes, this could be an idea, although I do hate reading articles on my web browser instead of reading them on paper. Now that I think about it, the reason could be that I have a dial-up connection to the Internet and that here in Italy we pay urban calls on a per minute basis :-( > Don't know how much good English would do for Marco in Itay, but he > sure handles English better than I would Italian. Well, I do hope this is a compliment ;-). Maybe you David forget that *all* the documentation on FreeBSD and/or computer science is in english, so we "foreigners" have to know it. By the way, I like english, it's very terse compared to others languages. If I read a technical paper, I know about 98-99% of the words. If I read Time, well, I need a dictionary nearby, if I listen to an american, well, maybe one or two beers could help ... ;-) > About all the Italian I know are "Ferrari" and "Michael > Schumacher". :-) I can't believe you! What about pizza, spaghetti, paparazzo ? ;-) Marco Molteni Computer Science student at the Universita' degli studi di Milano, Italy. UNIX _is_ user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are.