From owner-svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Fri Feb 1 15:37:33 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A551914B7715; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@toco-domains.de) Received: from toco-domains.de (mail.toco-domains.de [176.9.39.170]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 204FC6DA91; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:37:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@toco-domains.de) Received: from [0.0.0.0] (mail.toco-domains.de [IPv6:2a01:4f8:150:50a5::6]) by toco-domains.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 89BCF135134E; Fri, 1 Feb 2019 16:37:31 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: svn commit: r491810 - in head/editors/vim: . files To: Cy Schubert Cc: Adam Weinberger , Alexey Dokuchaev , ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org References: <201902011524.x11FOJpR013828@slippy.cwsent.com> From: Torsten Zuehlsdorff Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=freebsd@toco-domains.de; 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FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <201902011524.x11FOJpR013828@slippy.cwsent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 204FC6DA91 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.98 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.98)[-0.982,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2019 15:37:33 -0000 On 01.02.19 16:24, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <3ca96b45-44d9-34b4-b48e-b49c1f1c4066@toco-domains.de>, > Torsten Zueh > lsdorff writes: >> >> >> >> On 01.02.19 15:47, Cy Schubert wrote: >>> On February 1, 2019 6:02:44 AM PST, Adam Weinberger wro >> te: >>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 6:58 AM Alexey Dokuchaev >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 01:54:07PM +0000, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>>>>> New Revision: 491810 >>>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/491810 >>>>>> >>>>>> Log: >>>>>> Update vim to patchlevel 865 >>>>>> >>>>>> After discussion on freebsd-ports@, switch the default UI toolkit >>>>>> from GTK2 to GTK3. There isn't a huge visual difference, so it's >>>>>> more predicated on the idea that people are more likely to have >>>>>> GTK3 already installed for other things. >>>>> >>>>> Actually, I believe it's more likely that people have GTK+2 >>>> installed, >>>>> not 3. That said, however, perhaps the best way out would be >>>> flavoring >>>>> the port so it offers both packages. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure that there's a huge benefit to offering multiple UI >>>> toolkit packages. There's not much difference between the GTK2 and the >>>> GTK3 interface. Perhaps I mischaracterized the situation; it is >>>> definitely correct to say that the discussion on freebsd-ports@ >>>> revealed nearly unanimous agreement that people would prefer GTK3 be >>>> the default. >>>> >>>> # Adam >>> >>> The big difference from a user's perspective is the scroll bar, specificall >> y middle button behavior. IMO a regression. >> >> After the switch to GTK-3 i have no scroll bar at all. "at all" means in >> kate, libreoffice, dolphin and all other kde/gtk-3 - applications. :D > > Hmm. Firefox uses GTK-3. It has a scrollbar. If I play with it, as in > put the cursor toward the middle of the slider, it does work. It's not > as easy as Motif or GTK-2 are. I think this is an attempt by GUI > developers to use one code base for mobile, notebook, and desktop. > Compromises that are clunky at best. > > Have you tried scrolling using the wheel? It might "magically" appear. Mh, Firefox and Thunderbird still have scroll bars. I did not realize that they use GTK 3. Kate has something like an "mini map" at the right but no scroll bar. Libreoffice has no scroll bars, too. I can scroll with the mouse wheel or with the cursor. But this does not make a scroll bar appear. Greetings, Torsten