Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 16:37:31 +0100 From: Torsten Zuehlsdorff <freebsd@toco-domains.de> To: Cy Schubert <Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com> Cc: Adam Weinberger <adamw@freebsd.org>, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>, ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r491810 - in head/editors/vim: . files Message-ID: <cc8fb59d-2889-ccdf-42f2-8573ea6b6486@toco-domains.de> In-Reply-To: <201902011524.x11FOJpR013828@slippy.cwsent.com> References: <201902011524.x11FOJpR013828@slippy.cwsent.com>
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On 01.02.19 16:24, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <3ca96b45-44d9-34b4-b48e-b49c1f1c4066@toco-domains.de>, > Torsten Zueh > lsdorff writes: >> >> >> >> On 01.02.19 15:47, Cy Schubert wrote: >>> On February 1, 2019 6:02:44 AM PST, Adam Weinberger <adamw@freebsd.org> wro >> te: >>>> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 6:58 AM Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 01, 2019 at 01:54:07PM +0000, Adam Weinberger wrote: >>>>>> New Revision: 491810 >>>>>> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/491810 >>>>>> >>>>>> Log: >>>>>> Update vim to patchlevel 865 >>>>>> >>>>>> After discussion on freebsd-ports@, switch the default UI toolkit >>>>>> from GTK2 to GTK3. There isn't a huge visual difference, so it's >>>>>> more predicated on the idea that people are more likely to have >>>>>> GTK3 already installed for other things. >>>>> >>>>> Actually, I believe it's more likely that people have GTK+2 >>>> installed, >>>>> not 3. That said, however, perhaps the best way out would be >>>> flavoring >>>>> the port so it offers both packages. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure that there's a huge benefit to offering multiple UI >>>> toolkit packages. There's not much difference between the GTK2 and the >>>> GTK3 interface. Perhaps I mischaracterized the situation; it is >>>> definitely correct to say that the discussion on freebsd-ports@ >>>> revealed nearly unanimous agreement that people would prefer GTK3 be >>>> the default. >>>> >>>> # Adam >>> >>> The big difference from a user's perspective is the scroll bar, specificall >> y middle button behavior. IMO a regression. >> >> After the switch to GTK-3 i have no scroll bar at all. "at all" means in >> kate, libreoffice, dolphin and all other kde/gtk-3 - applications. :D > > Hmm. Firefox uses GTK-3. It has a scrollbar. If I play with it, as in > put the cursor toward the middle of the slider, it does work. It's not > as easy as Motif or GTK-2 are. I think this is an attempt by GUI > developers to use one code base for mobile, notebook, and desktop. > Compromises that are clunky at best. > > Have you tried scrolling using the wheel? It might "magically" appear. Mh, Firefox and Thunderbird still have scroll bars. I did not realize that they use GTK 3. Kate has something like an "mini map" at the right but no scroll bar. Libreoffice has no scroll bars, too. I can scroll with the mouse wheel or with the cursor. But this does not make a scroll bar appear. Greetings, Torsten
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