From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed May 31 07:33:35 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id HAA11431 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 31 May 1995 07:33:35 -0700 Received: from localhost.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id HAA11416 ; Wed, 31 May 1995 07:33:31 -0700 Message-Id: <199505311433.HAA11416@freefall.cdrom.com> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.cdrom.com: Host localhost.cdrom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com (Frank Durda IV) cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with 2.0.5-Alpha In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 31 May 95 08:40:00 CDT." Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 07:33:31 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Are you configuring ANY swap on these systems? There must be some or the install will fail (or so I believe). >I have two existing systems that were running SNAP-0412 without incident >that I have tried to install 2.0.5-Alpha on. This has been a failure. > >The system is a DEC 1027, also known as a GRid 433, also known as a >Tandy 4833, also, well you get the idea. > >These are 486DX-33 systems, with external cache modules, 8Meg RAM, >a single 540 IDE drive. No SCSI, CD-ROMs removed, WD8013 network >card (0x2, 0x280, 0xd400), standard COM1, COM2, LPT1 and nothing else. >OAK or WDC VGA adapters, depending on the machine. > >With 8Meg present (what they have had for months), I note on the F2 screen >that dozens of processes are aborting with: > > Process 402 Killed by vm_pageout -- out of swap > >The installation appears to be working although many help files appear >missing. I expected some to be missing, but not all - the true error >may be a killed process rather than a missing file. > >Anyway, the installation gets to "Making device files" and just >sits there forever. I suspect it didn't actually make file systems >as that step reportedly took about one second. > >I halted the system and added memory from an identical system, bringing >it up to 12 Meg thinking the additional RAM might avoid the swap >altogether. But now the system starts up: > > Booting the kernelel...done (yes, it is displayed that way) > BIOS basemem (639K) != RTC basemem (640K) > >and it just hangs at this point. > >So I tried 4Meg, as the system is supposed to work with just 4Meg. >The system also hangs after the BIOS BASEMEM message. So I returned >to 8Meg memory size and it boots but by monitoring screen 2 it is obvious >it is killing processes left and right, starting with process 6. > >Then I switched to 16Meg. It also hangs. But if I move the same >plug-in memory board loaded with the 16Meg on it to the second machine, >that system gets a trap when booting 2.0.5-Alpha: > > Booting the kernel > BIOS basemem (639K) != RTC basemem (640K) > Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode > fault virtual address = 0x1c > fault code = supervisor read, page not present > instruction pointer = 0x8:0xf0186235 > code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b, gran 1 > processor eflags = resume, IOPL=0 > current process = 0 () > interrupt mask = net tty bio > panic: page fault > hit reset please > >This is 100% reproducible on one system and doesn't seem to happen >on the other. The only difference was that the machine that paniced >had video shadowing disabled in the BIOS. > >Again, both these systems ran 1.1.5.1, and all the SNAPs since February >and have been used for numerous "make worlds" without incident. The >system with the panic hasn't had its hard disk wiped yet, so after >the panic, I simply let the system boot the last snap from hard disk >and it ran fine with no hardware changes at all with the 16Meg present. > >So with 2.0.5-Alpha, neither system runs at all unless exactly 8Meg >is present and it gets out of swap errors with 8Meg present. > > >Constructive suggestions are welcome and I'll be happy to try any >experiments to resolve this. > >Fastest address is uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com > >Frank Durda IV |"The Knights who say "LETNi" >or uhclem%nemesis@fw.ast.com (Fastest Route)| demand... A SEGMENT REGISTER!!! >" >...letni!rwsys!nemesis!uhclem |"A what?" >...decvax!fw.ast.com!nemesis!uhclem |"LETNi! LETNi! LETNi!" - 1983 > -- Justin T. Gibbs ============================================== TCS Instructional Group - Programmer/Analyst 1 Cory | Po | Danube | Volga | Parker | Torus ==============================================