From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 22:01:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98D7106564A; Wed, 30 May 2012 22:01:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DDC18FC12; Wed, 30 May 2012 22:01:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.30.101.53] ([209.117.142.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q4ULmXRa048852 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 30 May 2012 15:48:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20120530130241.GH9952@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 15:48:28 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <722ECB48-6C82-4FF0-AC18-02910DBD0B66@bsdimp.com> References: <20120526235510.GB90668@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <4FC60E8C.1070204@cox.net> <20120530130241.GH9952@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> To: Baptiste Daroussin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (harmony.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.6]); Wed, 30 May 2012 15:48:35 -0600 (MDT) Cc: arch@FreeBSD.org, "John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell" Subject: Re: switch tounconditionnal boostrapping while to build the tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 22:01:31 -0000 On May 30, 2012, at 7:02 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 08:11:56AM -0400, John D. Hendrickson and Sara = Darnell wrote: >> i find the statements hard to believe >>=20 >> why are you doing it that way ? (using a broken yacc) > It is not a broken yacc. the yacc import just revealed another problem = which is > boostrap tools may needs to be always boostraped (which makes sense if = you > really want to support cross-compilation from nearly anywhere. Cross build support doesn't require that you break things like that. = Never had, and never will. The FreeBSD version is irrelevant to cross = building, so bootstrapping checks are still needed. In the cross build, = the bootstrapping OS version will be 0 and we'll build everything we = need (possibly more than we would bootstrapping from supported FreeBSD = versions). >> why do you believe it's ok to change previous releases that don't use = that yacc ? >=20 > To build able to build them on a system that do not have the yacc = version they > need, that system could be linux for example or it could be a recent = head. You can accomplish this without blowing away the conditionals. Warner