From owner-freebsd-ppc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 15 20:54:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4753B16A4CE for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:54:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail.vide.lv (mail.vide.lv [213.175.69.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E324043D5C for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:54:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dexter@ambidexter.com) Received: (qmail 28721 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2004 21:56:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.2.2?) (213.175.79.146) by mail.vide.lv with SMTP; 15 Dec 2004 21:56:28 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20041215160504.GB31842@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <41BF636E.3090805@freebsd.org> <41BF711C.8020203@freebsd.org> <20041215160504.GB31842@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 22:54:06 +0200 To: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org From: Michael Dexter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Subject: Re: Darwin UFS Support? X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:54:13 -0000 Hello all, My original motivation behind the question was for use with cross-platform disk formats. Mac/Darwin UFS and FreeBSD UFS/FFS/UFS2 seem to have taken different paths long ago, as astute readers pointed out. For what it's worth, it appears my Darwin to FreeBSD x86/ppc options are: HFS+ Native to Mac and ported by yar thanks to APSL - may gradually lose support. Fat32 The classic "cross platform" format, unless MS goes patent crazy. 5.x has reportedly imported Apple APSL code for improved functionality. Best bet? Ext2 Mac drivers are at sourceforge and are reportedly stable. FreeBSD side would probably need sparse superblocks turned off as per Michael Lucas' "compat_linux the Hard Way" at onlamp (point compat_linux at a real RH install). mount and maintenance utilities appear to exist in various forms for each. It sounds like Darwin UFS may never sync with FreeBSD because of the work that would be involved. For those after Windows support, the "captive-ntfs" driver (using MS binaries) may be adaptable to FreeBSD ... but I'm after Mac-friendliness. :) Thank you all who posted their insights and I wish you well with the PPC port. Michael. ----------- DOS/Windows and GNU/Linux are like airplane food: they have been improved in countless ways for improved appearance, aroma, flavor and consistency but there is only one problem: it still doesn't taste good. >On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 09:02:52AM +1000, Peter Grehan wrote: >> >However the HFS+ module at http://people.freebsd.org/~yar/hfs/ worked >> >beautifully, last time I tried them, even on ppc. >> >> Unfortunately the latest 6-CURRENT buf changes broke this in a way >> that I don't think can be fixed 'til if/when/never Apple sync up with >> that code :-( > >This is why FS projects like this should be committed early to the >FreeBSD CVS repo. So that wide sweeping changes are also applied to >them. We lost read-only XFS for this same reason. > >-- >-- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) >_______________________________________________ >freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org mailing list >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ppc >To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ppc-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"