From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Nov 2 02:32:21 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA16526 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:32:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell6.ba.best.com (shell6.ba.best.com [206.184.139.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA16521 for ; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:32:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkb@shell6.ba.best.com) Received: (from jkb@localhost) by shell6.ba.best.com (8.9.0/8.9.0/best.sh) id CAA12185; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:32:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19981102023212.A11933@best.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 02:32:12 -0800 From: "Jan B. Koum " To: Brett Glass , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Microsoft "Halloween document:" Authentic? References: <4.1.19981101223919.0462acd0@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981101223919.0462acd0@127.0.0.1>; from Brett Glass on Sun, Nov 01, 1998 at 10:54:07PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Nov 01, 1998 at 10:54:07PM -0700, Brett Glass wrote: > Eric Raymond has published a document which he claims is an internal white > paper from Microsoft on the subject of open source software. The document > is "conveniently" slanted toward the Linux camp in that it identifies Linux > as being of major interest (and a major threat to Microsoft) and dismisses > FreeBSD (and the other *BSDs) as too little of a threat to be worth > investigating. (The list of open source software projects of interest, at > the end of the document, doesn't include a link to any *BSD Web sites.) It > also describes the presence of a core team, and coordination and vetting of > contributions to the code base, as weaknesses rather than strengths. > > It's not clear whether the document is authentic, a "head fake" > (intentional leak), or a complete fraud. However, the slant toward Linux, > and the absence of more than a passing mention of the *BSDs, strikes me as > suspicious -- as if a Linux partisan wrote it. > > What do you think? Raymond has posted the document at > > http://www.tuxedo.org/%7Eesr/halloween.html > > --Brett Glass > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message This URL already went to advocacy and later on to hackers. I have a feeling tomorrow when people get to work and check the mail from the lists they are on - we will have three threads on three different lists. I also have a feeling all those three threads will pretty much say: Both MS and esr really don't know what is going on in the *BSD world. To put it mildly :) -- Yan I don't have the password .... + Jan Koum But the path is chainlinked .. | Spelled Jan, pronounced Yan. There. So if you've got the time .... | Web: http://www.best.com/~jkb Set the tone to sync ......... + OS: http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message