From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 28 20:18:54 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8389716A527 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:18:54 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net (mail27.sea5.speakeasy.net [69.17.117.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6E143D2D for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:18:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 8504 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2005 20:18:53 -0000 Received: from server.baldwin.cx ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 28 Mar 2005 20:18:51 -0000 Received: from [10.50.41.231] (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2SKHwuC002552; Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:18:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) From: John Baldwin To: des@des.no (Dag-Erling =?windows-1252?q?Sm=F8rgrav?=) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 14:25:41 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20050317164859.4476A5D08@ptavv.es.net> <200503241544.51914.jhb@FreeBSD.org> <86wtrtuqla.fsf@xps.des.no> In-Reply-To: <86wtrtuqla.fsf@xps.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200503281425.41308.jhb@FreeBSD.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.8 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on server.baldwin.cx cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org cc: Jiawei Ye cc: Jeff Smick Subject: Re: ATAPICAM Problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 20:18:54 -0000 On Sunday 27 March 2005 09:10 am, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > John Baldwin writes: > > Note that many developers tend to only use the config / make depend / > > make method as it is more natural if you are working on the kernel. ma= ke > > buildkernel is better suited for users on non-development machines > > however. > > 'make buildkernel' works just fine for developers. It's just a matter > of habit, and of knowing how to use NO_KERNELCLEAN, NO_KERNELDEPEND, > and MODULES_OVERRIDE. I find it useful for cross builds, but cd ~/work/p4/foo//compile/BLAH= ;=20 make is significantly shorter than make buildkernel NO_KERNELCLEAN=3Dyes NO_KERNELDEPEND=3Dyes NO_KERNELCONFIG= =3Dyes=20 KERNSRCDIR=3D/home/john/work/p4/foo KERNCONF=3DBLAH It's also much faster, especially when building LINT and fixing typos and=20 syntax errors after a tree-wide sweep due to an API change. =2D-=20 John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" =3D http://www.FreeBSD.org