From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 8 23:37:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED04116A400 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 23:37:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from shrike.submonkey.net (cpc2-cdif2-0-0-cust107.cdif.cable.ntl.com [81.104.168.108]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F68343D46 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2006 23:37:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ceri@submonkey.net) Received: from ceri by shrike.submonkey.net with local (Exim 4.61 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1FSMzs-000KE7-JV; Sun, 09 Apr 2006 00:37:40 +0100 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 00:37:40 +0100 From: Ceri Davies To: Scott Long Message-ID: <20060408233740.GA84768@submonkey.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Scott Long , Brooks Davis , hackers@freebsd.org References: <20060407225742.GA21619@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <20060407230247.GH16344@submonkey.net> <4437C9F6.5000008@samsco.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DocE+STaALJfprDB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4437C9F6.5000008@samsco.org> X-PGP: finger ceri@FreeBSD.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Sender: Ceri Davies Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using any network interface whatsoever X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:37:49 -0000 --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 08, 2006 at 08:34:30AM -0600, Scott Long wrote: > >>On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 11:53:42PM +0100, Ceri Davies wrote: > >>>For the filesystem I can use geom_label and /dev/ufs/UnlikelyString, b= ut=20 > >>>I'd > >>>also like to have it try to configure whatever interfaces the machine > >>>happens to have via DHCP. > >>> > >>>Other than specifying ifconfig_0=3D"DHCP" once for every possible= =20 > >>>value of > >>>, is there a mechanism to do this already? > >> > >>ifconfig_DEFAULT >=20 > Well, the real question is why we force the details of driver names onto= =20 > users. Network and storage drivers are especially guilty of this, but > tty devices also are annoying. The current situation on BSD, where I can identify which interface is meant by its type, is definitely preferable to the Linux situation where eth0 may mean something different tomorrow depending on what is plugged in. Since we can rename devices arbitrarily, I don't really see a problem with respect to anything else. Ceri --=20 That must be wonderful! I don't understand it at all. -- Moliere --DocE+STaALJfprDB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEOElEocfcwTS3JF8RAih7AKCBFjVEjUtGwWxc9daujXbPyouc1gCgrZp9 t12crX9NkXN3Lq8wNgTgZvs= =yPOf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DocE+STaALJfprDB--