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On 6/19/2013 19:53, Adam Strohl wrote:
>> sync(8) does not do what you think it does.  Please read (not skim) this
>> entire thread starting here:
>>
>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2013-April/thread.html#16982
>>
>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2013-April/016982.html
>
> Groking this now ..


Epic.  So basically "mount -u -o ro <FS>" is really what I (and probably 
everyone else) wants and the man page needs a major overhaul + 
disclaimer (and possibly a recommendation to use "mount -u -o ro <FS>" 
instead).


-- 
Adam Strohl
http://www.ateamsystems.com/