From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 29 23:49:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4936616A403 for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:49:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from coolzone@io.dk) Received: from dansknet.dk (smtp1.dansknet.dk [85.233.229.242]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 522A413C48C for ; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:49:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from coolzone@io.dk) Received: (qmail 22116 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2007 00:07:13 -0000 Received: from 85233228239.switch.dansknet.dk (HELO dansknet.dk) (85.233.228.239) by dansknet.dk with SMTP; 30 Mar 2007 00:07:13 -0000 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:49:14 +0200 From: Rico Secada To: Gary Kline Message-Id: <20070330014914.75a87667.coolzone@io.dk> In-Reply-To: <20070329234530.GA14805@thought.org> References: <20070329234634.c12b803b.coolzone@io.dk> <20070329234530.GA14805@thought.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.11; i386-portbld-freebsd6.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Time to kill FreeBSD as a Desktop X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 23:49:52 -0000 On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:45:30 -0800 Gary Kline wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:46:34PM +0200, Rico Secada wrote: > > Hi All. > > > > I have been using FreeBSD as a desktop system, on serveral computers for about one and a half year now. I truly love FreeBSD! But keeping third party ports/packages updated is just to timeconsuming IMHO. > > > > Building everything from ports is ok, on a quick machine, but even on a quick machine building KDE takes a LOT of time. Waiting until the stable packages are ready takes about 2 - 3 weeks, and until then, a lot of other stuff needs to be updated. > > > > Compared to Debian GNU/Linux's "apt-get update && apt-get dist upgrade" command, OR OpenBSD's "pkg-add -u" > > > > >From OpenBSD's man page for "pkg_add": > > > > -u Update the given pkgname(s), and anything it depends upon. If > > no pkgname is given, pkg_add will update all installed packages. > > This relies on PKG_PATH to figure out the new package names. > > > > I really think it is time for FreeBSD to make it more easy to update binary packages, like on OpenBSD. > > > Until recent months, I was hyping the Ubuntu distro of Deb/Linux. > *Everything* was push-button. Well, okay, my first upgrade was > a disastrous week or three long series of do-overs. But the > second upgrade (to 6.06) was push-buttons and wait until several > hundred megs came across my 144k ISDL. I was eager to move up to > 6.10, but the first several forum posts gave me pause. Nutshell is > that you can [easily] upgrade every "Long-Term Support" version. > But these are 2 or three years apart. And the backports are often > "unofficial" (ya' takes yer risks). I'm still pretty happy with > older Gnome and KDE, older apps. The Berkeley distros have the > leading-edge versions, but at least we (FBSD) don't have an easy > way of upgrading ports. I'll stick with the rock-solid stability > of FreeBSD for my DNS server. I'll test things that will improve > the performance of my slower servers--(tuning)--and be ready to > offer ideas, even SWAGS, on upgrading. > > So: real work here; play/AV or mostly Audio or Ubuntu. > > gary > Thats typical Ubuntu. Those problems doesn't exist on Debian. And no "unofficial" repos are needed on Debian. > > > > > Best and kind regards, > > Rico > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > -- > Gary Kline kline@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix > >