From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 18 16:40:13 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F5316A419 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:40:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (tim.des.no [194.63.250.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6394A13C448 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:40:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@des.no) Received: from tim.des.no (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spam.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3BF2094; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:40:07 +0100 (CET) X-Spam-Tests: AWL X-Spam-Learn: disabled X-Spam-Score: -0.3/3.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.4 (2008-01-01) on tim.des.no Received: from ds4.des.no (des.no [80.203.243.180]) by smtp.des.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B322093; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:40:06 +0100 (CET) Received: by ds4.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B43698449D; Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:40:06 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Csaba Henk References: <3bbf2fe10802061700p253e68b8s704deb3e5e4ad086@mail.gmail.com> <70e8236f0802070321n9097d3fy1b39f637b3c2a06@mail.gmail.com> <867ihdc34c.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080212190207.GB49155@beastie.creo.hu> <86d4r2540f.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080213165923.GD49155@beastie.creo.hu> <86zlu493ep.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20080214101511.GE49155@beastie.creo.hu> <20080214182740.GZ64299@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20080218153717.GH49155@beastie.creo.hu> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:40:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20080218153717.GH49155@beastie.creo.hu> (Csaba Henk's message of "Mon\, 18 Feb 2008 16\:37\:17 +0100") Message-ID: <86d4qu43rt.fsf@ds4.des.no> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.1 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [RFC] Remove NTFS kernel support X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:40:13 -0000 Csaba Henk writes: > Peter Jeremy writes: > > Csaba Henk writes: > > > yes, why so? FreeBSD has embraced recently a big chunk of CDDL'd > > > code without making much fuss about licensing [...] > > If you're talking about either dtrace or ZFS: > > [...] > > 2) It is not part of the GENERIC system and will remain optional due to > > the license. > It smells like apples and oranges to me... GENERIC is the name of the > default configuration for the _kernel_, isnt'it? Correct. It was *you* who brought up the issue of CDDL code in the kernel. Peter pointed out, very correctly, that the code in question is not included in the default kernel. Before you go any further with this, please take a moment to reflect on the difference between ~120,000 lines of highly complex kernel code and ~20,000 lines of fairly simple userland code which we know has already been (at least partly) reimplemented under a friendlier license. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no