From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 6 14:37:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29D7D16A4CE for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2004 14:37:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from makeworld.com (chcgil2-ar9-4-60-214-019.chcgil2.dsl-verizon.net [4.60.214.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3F943D2F for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2004 14:37:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) Received: from evrtwa1-ar12-4-46-162-188.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net (racerx@evrtwa1-ar12-4-46-162-188.evrtwa1.dsl-verizon.net [4.46.162.188]) by makeworld.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i26MbL0P098072 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2004 16:37:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from racerx@makeworld.com) From: Chris To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 16:37:21 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.6 References: <20040306145348.B69AD2B4DAA@mail.evilcoder.org> <200403061129.13742.racerx@makeworld.com> <87wu5xwyl7.fsf@strauser.com> In-Reply-To: <87wu5xwyl7.fsf@strauser.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200403061637.21254.racerx@makeworld.com> Subject: Re: Where is 4.9-STABLE? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 22:37:25 -0000 On Saturday 06 March 2004 01:43 pm, Kirk Strauser wrote: > At 2004-03-06T17:29:13Z, Chris writes: > > Doing a make world is perfectly acceptable. It's considered the > > "traditional" way of doing things, and accomplishes the same results. > > No, it doesn't. Specifically, it skips the reboot and mergemaster between > the installkernel and installworld steps, which means that you'll end up > running a new userspace against an old kernel and /etc for a little while. > > > If your going to inform users NOT to do one way opposed to another, at > > least give specifics as to why you feel that way. > > There you have it. "make world" is *not* the recommended upgrade process > anymore. The new method is detailed in UPDATING. It seems I needed to be very explicit in my meaning. While in 4.9-RELEASE to STABLE, mergmaster is needed as is a rebuild of the kernel. Once those have been accomplished, a simple make world does the trick. As I stated, and does the handbook, make world IS the traditional way of compiling and installing your src tree. When done in the correct steps, works very well. I for one refuse to adopt the new way untill I moved to 5.1 - then it was simply a matter if having too. I have always done make world up untill 4.9-STABLE without issues, as many other users. So perhaps I didn't clarify my points (as I'm doing now). I believe in the users case of 4.9, make world (with the proper steps involved) is and will continue to be ba a viable way of compiling your src tre and upgrading your system. Otherwise, the handbook would have removed that all togather. You must remember, there are many of us that sometime refuse to adopt new ways of doing things unless need requires it - now that I run 5.2.1, I use the new style and actually like it. make world has worked for me since 2.2.6 and I hated to see it go. Oh well. -- Best regards, Chris