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From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon)
Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject: Re: Problems installing Xaw3d?
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> On Tuesday,  1 November 2005 at  4:05:11 -0500, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 07:22:31PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> >> Linux distributions install all this stuff by default.  If we don't,
> >> why should we expect anybody to care about trying?
> >
> > It works by default.  Something is wrong on your system and your
> > system alone.
> 
> That's barely possible, but unlikely.  I'm sure other people install
> like this.

I wonder exactly how many people are installing from packages instead
of from ports.  I personally suspect that there are some hidden 'gotchas'
in the former that don't get sufficiently exercised.  (I could mention
the inability of this idiotic laptop to run portupgrade as installed
from the 5.4 CD -- still undiagnosed.)

mcl