From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 18 7:12:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F2637B401 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:12:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.tenebras.com (laptop.tenebras.com [66.92.188.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2F34443E75 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:12:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kudzu@tenebras.com) Received: (qmail 19168 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2002 15:12:36 -0000 Received: from sapphire.tenebras.com (HELO tenebras.com) (192.168.188.241) by 0 with SMTP; 18 Nov 2002 15:12:36 -0000 Message-ID: <3DD90364.306@tenebras.com> Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:12:36 -0800 From: Michael Sierchio User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, fr-fr, ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Caley Cc: Lefteris Tsintjelis , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: -STABLE was stable for long time (Re: FreeBSD: Server or DesktopOS?) References: <3DD8FD2B.8A95364E@ene.asda.gr> <200211181458.gAIEwlJP027099@pele.r.caley.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Richard Caley wrote: > Basicly, you can't have somethign which is stable and which gets fixed > quickly, the two aims are in opposition. Something which gets fixed quickly is one definition of stability -- the addition of new features is its opposite. Deciding when a proposed change is defect correction and when it belongs in the next release is the tricky part. Julian Elischer made the point some time ago that it is helpful to continue to support critical fixes to older revs precisely because those folks are using FreeBSD. Pretend we have seats, i.e., customers. Pretend that there are folks out there who aren't hobbyists. From my perspective, the current stable branch is RELENG_4_7, you can go on abusing the language any way you like. OTOH 2.2.8 and 3.5.1 are very stable, just more limited in usefulness. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message