From owner-freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 1 19:42:36 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BCD16A4CE; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:42:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from pooker.samsco.org (pooker.samsco.org [168.103.85.57]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F297543D1D; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:42:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Received: from [192.168.254.12] (g4.samsco.home [192.168.254.12]) (authenticated bits=0) by pooker.samsco.org (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j11Jgd6E001017; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:42:39 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from scottl@freebsd.org) Message-ID: <41FFDBA8.8070501@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 12:42:32 -0700 From: Scott Long User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ade Lovett References: <20050201190646.GA18651@ack.Berkeley.EDU> <41FFD47B.2000505@freebsd.org> <41FFD9EE.3070204@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <41FFD9EE.3070204@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=3.8 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on pooker.samsco.org cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dump card state: amd64 + 300G seagate + Adaptec AIC7902 + 5.3-stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: SCSI subsystem List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 19:42:36 -0000 Ade Lovett wrote: > Scott Long wrote: > >> The firmware on two of those drives is dangerouly old and broken. I'd >> suggest contacting Seagate for an update, and keep a fire extinguisher >> and some holy water nearby until they are upgraded. > > > Newer firmware doesn't make any difference to this particular problem. > > The combination of U320, Adaptec, Seagate, and ahd is very, very prone > to weird and wonderful warnings, errors, failures, lockups, and general > crapness. > > Somewhat unsurprisingly, things seem to be significantly worse with > integrated aic7902 chipsets on the motherboard, than with the equivalent > PCI-X cards. > > By all means update the firmware -- particularly in this case -- but > don't expect it to be the Holy Grail. You *might* get lucky, but the > odds are significantly stacked against you. > > -aDe Some versions of the Adaptec U320 chips work better with cables, and some work better with backplanes. In general, none work well with anything that isn't very simple and clean. 68->80 pin converters are very problematic, for example, as are cable->backplane junctions. In any case, whomever at Seagate tech support is making wild claims about 64-bit support and FreeBSD should be ignored. Scott