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Date:      Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:16:24 +0200
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>
To:        Chris Rees <utisoft@gmail.com>
Cc:        Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, "Simon J. Gerraty" <sjg@juniper.net>
Subject:   Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program
Message-ID:  <20121026231624.GH18995@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net>
In-Reply-To: <CADLo8383Y823kqKgBLHfx9CdCDuZQgVQSYwfuWq_29Hq7cYv=Q@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:02:00PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
> On 26 Oct 2012 21:51, "Simon J. Gerraty" <sjg@juniper.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:00:26 +0100, Chris Rees writes:
> > >:L -- seems that bmake's use for this is kinda pointless; returning the
> > >name of the variable; we could swap that usage over directly.
> >
> > Acutally it is very useful.
> > The debugging facilities in dirdeps.mk rely on it.
> > The junos build uses it in many other places too.
> >
> >
> > >:U -- with bmake has non-optional arguments, so for example:
> > >
> > >${VAR:U} - pmake behaviour
> > >
> > >${VAR:Uval} - make behaviour.
> > >
> > >Would that be acceptable?  I can get a patch in if that's popular.
> >
> > No, please don't do that.
> > I'm trying to reduce the divergence b/w freebsd and netbsd.
>=20
> In that case we have a switch time on the order of years, not weeks; 8.3 =
is
> supported until May '14, and unless we get a :tl etc MFC into 8, even
> longer.  All this time the ports tree must work with pmake.

:tl/:tu has already been MFCed to 8 iirc.
>=20
> I don't want to discourage you or belittle your excellent work here, but
> Marcel made me very nervous with his comment on the process being "a few
> weeks".
>=20
> Chris

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