From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 26 23:16:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB4D77; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:16:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bapt@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.135]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B65F8FC08; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:16:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9QNGR0A054805; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:16:27 GMT (envelope-from bapt@freebsd.org) Received: (from bapt@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id q9QNGQaL054804; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:16:26 GMT (envelope-from bapt@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: bapt set sender to bapt@freebsd.org using -f Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 01:16:24 +0200 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Chris Rees Subject: Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program Message-ID: <20121026231624.GH18995@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> References: <20121025211522.GA32636@dragon.NUXI.org> <3F52B7C9-A7B7-4E0E-87D0-1E67FE5D0BA7@xcllnt.net> <20121025221244.GG3808@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net> <20121026181152.GC44331@dragon.NUXI.org> <20121026204910.E1FFA58094@chaos.jnpr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VkqCAaSJIySsbD6j" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Garrett Cooper , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Marcel Moolenaar , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org, "Simon J. Gerraty" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:16:27 -0000 --VkqCAaSJIySsbD6j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 10:02:00PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: > On 26 Oct 2012 21:51, "Simon J. Gerraty" wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:00:26 +0100, Chris Rees writes: > > >:L -- seems that bmake's use for this is kinda pointless; returning the > > >name of the variable; we could swap that usage over directly. > > > > Acutally it is very useful. > > The debugging facilities in dirdeps.mk rely on it. > > The junos build uses it in many other places too. > > > > > > >:U -- with bmake has non-optional arguments, so for example: > > > > > >${VAR:U} - pmake behaviour > > > > > >${VAR:Uval} - make behaviour. > > > > > >Would that be acceptable? I can get a patch in if that's popular. > > > > No, please don't do that. > > I'm trying to reduce the divergence b/w freebsd and netbsd. >=20 > In that case we have a switch time on the order of years, not weeks; 8.3 = is > supported until May '14, and unless we get a :tl etc MFC into 8, even > longer. All this time the ports tree must work with pmake. :tl/:tu has already been MFCed to 8 iirc. >=20 > I don't want to discourage you or belittle your excellent work here, but > Marcel made me very nervous with his comment on the process being "a few > weeks". >=20 > Chris --VkqCAaSJIySsbD6j Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAlCLGcgACgkQ8kTtMUmk6Ey4KQCdHZtgU8zYv/eBiU2L7Dz3gmN8 mV4AoJPWMJW9mHxFlMzFaE2e4qN0e1x4 =gBAA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --VkqCAaSJIySsbD6j--