From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Feb 11 17:26:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B322016A400 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1DB13C49D for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:26:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) Received: from dagobah.vindaloo.com (dagobah.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACE95CFF for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:05:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from dagobah.vindaloo.com (localhost.vindaloo.com [127.0.0.1]) by dagobah.vindaloo.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1BH2bbp001944 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:02:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@dagobah.vindaloo.com) Received: (from chris@localhost) by dagobah.vindaloo.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id l1BH2bYY001943 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:02:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris) Resent-Message-Id: <200702111702.l1BH2bYY001943@dagobah.vindaloo.com> X-Original-To: chris@vindaloo.com Delivered-To: chris@vindaloo.com Received: from corellia.vindaloo.com (corellia.vindaloo.com [64.51.148.100]) by yavin.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F5C2532E for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:00:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from dagobah.vindaloo.com (dagobah.vindaloo.com [172.24.145.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by corellia.vindaloo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396565CFF; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:00:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.vindaloo.com (localhost.vindaloo.com [IPv6:::1]) by dagobah.vindaloo.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id l1BH0M4G001914; Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:00:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from chris@vindaloo.com) From: Christopher Sean Hilton To: Michael Nottebrock In-Reply-To: <200702100306.38076.lofi@freebsd.org> References: <45CBA137.7050701@isp.com> <20070209081333.GA834@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <45CCEC2A.7070800@isp.com> <200702100306.38076.lofi@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:00:21 -0500 Message-Id: <1171213221.1487.46.camel@dagobah.vindaloo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63-csh_yavin_1.0.3 (2004-01-11) on yavin.vindaloo.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.5 required=4.5 tests=BAYES_01 autolearn=ham version=2.63-csh_yavin_1.0.3 X-filtered: yavin.vindaloo.com Resent-From: Christopher Sean Hilton Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:02:37 -0500 Resent-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: pppd crashes, was: kde-freebsd X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 17:26:30 -0000 On Sat, 2007-02-10 at 03:06 +0100, Michael Nottebrock wrote: [ snip ] > All that your "bug report" accomplishes is broadcasting your bad and > uninformed attitude to an even bigger audience. It is in your own and the > FreeBSD community's best interest to backtrack before anyone gets to form a > negative opinion on both. I just took a look at the list of bugs in pppd. Aside from being unmaintained it looks as though the functionality is still okay. This is borne out my experience using pppd with my wireless modem. Just last night on a trip from JFK in fact. Opinion is getting more important with the market arrival of affordable EVDO coverage and cards. EVDO is a wireless technology for connecting to the net. The connection speeds are between 700 ~ 3000 kb/s I nearly passed on the opportunity to get one card due to reports that FreeBSD 6.1 and 6.2 had rendered kernel ppp unusable. In the current generation these cards are very fast serial modems that connect to the USB bus. They configure exactly like a serial connected modem and ppp stack. They are primarily configured for windows but configurations for kernel pppd primarily for Linux and Mac OSX are readily available on the Internet. The argument for EVDO cards also holds for bluetooth enabled phones. With Verizon and Sprint allowing you to use the bluetooth stack in your phone to connect to the Internet at EVDO speeds for a nominal fee, we should expect more people and try to use FreeBSD in this manner. When they do they will com from Linux with a kernel pppd configuration. -- Chris