From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 28 23:24:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DDBC106566C for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:24:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from samankaya@netscape.net) Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BB1B8FC08 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:24:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id nBSNOeP1000471; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:24:41 -0500 Received: from samankaya@netscape.net by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id o.bff.71d7d75d (37097); Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:24:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.2.21] (dsl.dynamic81215233158.ttnet.net.tr [81.215.233.158]) by cia-db07.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB077-90e94b393e3192; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:24:35 -0500 Message-ID: <4B393E31.5020707@netscape.net> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 01:24:33 +0200 From: Kaya Saman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.22) Gecko/20090605 SeaMonkey/1.1.17 (Ubuntu-1.1.17+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.04.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Vande More References: <4B3927EB.4030802@optiplex-networks.com> <6201873e0912281420n590b173dtac94f9936cca6e3@mail.gmail.com> <4B393463.5060504@netscape.net> <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <6201873e0912281504j552d6351mf64d8e566d54bcef@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AOL-IP: 81.215.233.158 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: samankaya@netscape.net Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 23:24:48 -0000 > > I would say ufs2 easily wins, but remember this is the > freebsd-questions list ;) There are some differences though, ufs2 > uses softupdates, not journaling(journaling is available and easy to > implement via gjournal). Softupdates I believe are a little faster > than journaling, but it's drawback is long disk checking after a dirty > shutdown. I've never had a ufs specific issue in hundreds if not > thousands of deployments, but nothing is guaranteed. ufs does have a > great track records and bunch of service hours logged. Cool meaning I am going UFS2 on my new install! > > > Example after a dirty shutdown: > > fsck -y Aaah fsck :-) If I run this on an ext3 FS it tends to make things much worse as I did it once and got left with a whole bunch of unattached inodes :-( reason for Linux and ext3 e2fsck is much better I have found from personal experience! > > > That's actually a bit disconcerting, do you have hardware instability? Nope! These systems are actually desktop systems which I run as servers as I couldn't afford to buy proper systems so got a whole bunch of cheap x86 boxes off Ebay. If running Scalix though I found it really eats up hard drives - although running a collaboration suite on a laptop is not the most intelligent thing to do but then what else can you do with a portable computer with bust LCD display? Left in my parents house in the UK now as I'm currently in Turkey but my lab from scavenged parts and systems: http://www.optiplex-networks.com/lab/lab.html > > -- > Adam Vande More Kaya