From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 12 10:15:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pr0n.kutulu.org (pr0n.kutulu.org [151.196.107.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71BB737B41A for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:15:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by pr0n.kutulu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5EB471EE; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 13:25:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 13:25:00 -0500 From: Kutulu To: MikeM Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Remote upgrading (was: /etc/make.conf question) Message-ID: <20020312132500.C11787@pr0n.kutulu.org> Mail-Followup-To: MikeM , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020312074349.A91204@blackhelicopters.org> <20020312155618.GA9463@raggedclown.net> <20020312114158.A92910@blackhelicopters.org> <200203121201050707.044E239E@luna.affordablehost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200203121201050707.044E239E@luna.affordablehost.com>; from MyRaQ@mgm51.com on Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:01:05PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 12:01:05PM -0500, MikeM wrote: > On 3/12/02 at 11:41 AM Michael Lucas wrote: > > |[snip] > |Remember, the correct dance for an upgrade these days includes the > |following: > | > |make buildworld > |make buildkernel > |make installkernel > | > |make installworld > |mergemaster > | > |[snip] > ============= > > I manage a remote FreeBSD server, a single-user reboot is not at > all practical. So my question is: how important, and for what > reason, is the urging to go into single-user mode? On my remote > server, I can assure that I am the only person logged in, I just > cannot get into single-user mode. > > Will the 'make installworld' and 'mergemaster' steps not work > properly in my scenario? > The first reboot is to ensure that the new kernel is running before you begin to installworld, presumably to make it easier to back out the installation. Running in single-user mode is merely to prevent an outdated OS world from running on the new kernel and causing problems. Having said that, I remotely administer quite a few -STABLE machines and I always skip the first reboot step. I, like you, can be assured that noone else is on the machine doing anything durin this process, and have upgraded many dozen times this way without any incidencts so far. Just be aware that it's not the "officially recommended" way to do things, so it may or may not work entirely perfect. --K To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message