From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Sep 3 13:50:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D5B37B400 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from directvinternet.com (dsl-65-185-140-165.telocity.com [65.185.140.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D147843E65 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:50:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from Tolstoy.home.lan (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by directvinternet.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g83KokGd077948; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:50:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nwestfal@directvinternet.com) Received: from localhost (nwestfal@localhost) by Tolstoy.home.lan (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id g83Koj5r077945; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:50:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Tolstoy.home.lan: nwestfal owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 13:50:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Neal E. Westfall" X-X-Sender: nwestfal@Tolstoy.home.lan To: Terry Lambert Cc: Dave Hayes , Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? In-Reply-To: <3D707754.1981EA36@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20020903133932.W66978-100000@Tolstoy.home.lan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 31 Aug 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: > > >> The ones that break out and forcibly reproduce are the best suited to > > >> survival in hostile environments. By definition even. > > > > > > Nature seems to vote against that one. > > > > How so? > > By evolving creatures who imprison or kill peers who engage in > forcible reproductive acts, thereby ensuring their removal from > the gene pool. Have either of you ever wondered why, over billions of years, evolution hasn't made these problems irrelevant? I mean, how many billions of years do we need to wait for evolution to kick in and remove the miscreants? > A society no more cares for its individual members than you > care for the individual cells which make up your body. Why then all the talk about "the rights of the state"? Neal To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message