From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jan 20 15:38:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03622 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:38:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [36.33.0.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA03615 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:38:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrsn@andrsn.stanford.edu) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA05555; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:37:21 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 15:37:21 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson Reply-To: Annelise Anderson To: Brett Glass cc: jonathan michaels , FreeBSD Chat Mailing List Subject: Re: Change in crypto policy in France In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990120141125.0671cac0@mail.lariat.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Brett Glass wrote: > You mean, "spy on"... Yes, exactly. They argue, of course, terrorism and drug trafficking as reasons for doing so (with a warrant). I don't disagree with you at all philosophically, and I certainly welcome your corrections and elaboration on the facts. I was trying to communicate the two sides of the issue. > And also to tap all of our phones. The EFF, in a monumental misstep > for which they still should not be forgiven, allowed a bill that > facilitates this to be passed. > They've gotten out of SOME committees, but have been killed > by legislators who are beholden to the FBI. (Perhaps the FBI > knows about their exramarital affairs? ;-) Or whatever. Perhaps the 900 FBI files that were found in the White House are useful in similar ways. We seem to be losing this battle with both the legislative and executive branches, and on both sides of the aisle. The corporations also tend to go along with regulation (key recovery and other regulation) to get permission to export. Annelise To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message